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Calling Someond A Racist

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Anniel Wed 30-Aug-23 14:14:45

In todays DT Douglas Murray wrote an interesting article about the implications of calling someone “a racist”. If you defame another individual by calling them a “Paedophile” there is the legal route to accuse them of telling a lie that can be disproven. However, if you call a person “racist” that term is purely subjective and you have no recourse to legal justice. Douglas Murray recounts what happened to Laurence Fox on Question Time when a female in the audience said that the UK is racist. Lauence Fox said he disagreed and that Britain was “a lovely country” and it was not true.
That marked the total destruction of Laurence Fox’s career. He became persona non grata and is now politically engaged in politics.and his views may very much be thought unpalatable by many people. However, it seems grossly unfair to me that any mischief maker can accuse any famous member of society of being racist and there is no legal way to disprove such an allegation. This awful label can destroy another persons stature in society. I have no way of finding out the identity of Fox’s accuser, but surely as a matter of.fairness this is a dreadful, accusation made with no objective truth?

What do other grans think?

Everything in the DT seems to be behind a paywall so I have not provided a link.

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Oreo Tue 05-Sept-23 11:09:01

Monica that’s a really well reasoned comment.Racism or cries of ‘racist’ is the new religion.

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mabon1 Tue 05-Sept-23 11:14:41

There are many people out there who make derogatory remarks about Welsh people and the Welsh language, which to me is racist.

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Lizbethann55 Tue 05-Sept-23 11:19:26

Well said Monica!

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Doodledog Tue 05-Sept-23 11:30:20

Oreo

Doodledog you have either misunderstood or are misrepresenting my posts.
I am not saying that people are idiots for having different opinions but that they are idiots if they allow political views to interfere with friendships.Having good friends is far more important than who votes for what.In my opinion.
There isn’t anything more to debate or discuss.😄
You did realise what I meant so are just nit picking.
Your choice and your opinion.

I'm really not nit-picking, and neither am I misrepresenting. I am saying that there are two choices - (1) to agree (as we do) that it is possible to have friends of differing political persuasions, and (2) to think that those who do not agree that this is possible are idiots. The latter view seems to me to contradict the former, is all.

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biglouis Tue 05-Sept-23 11:39:47

When my daughter’s partner (a white privileged male) tried to reprimand his Asian staff for skiving and not keeping her hours, she went straight to HR and accused him of being a racist

It is because of attitudes like these that vulnerable girls from a lower class background were groomed by Asian gangs but the police were reluctant to investigate.

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Nicenanny3 Tue 05-Sept-23 12:09:29

11:39biglouis

It's called playing the race card.

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Iam64 Tue 05-Sept-23 19:33:38

Look at any discussion on this forum and you’ll find in the early days, the Rochdale/Oldham/Oxford girls weren’t seen as vulnerable children being sexually exploited. The were ‘making lifestyle choices’ to take drugs/drink and have sex wit adult men
Referring to a current thread, that’s the line being taken abiut Epstein’s victims. The woman referred to is described as a 17 year old prostitute. This totally ignores her being selected and groomed age 14.

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