Endometriosis charity appoints trans woman as the new head of the organisation.

Rosie51

At the bottom of the front page.

Funding research that will stop men dying from prostate cancer oh my goodness, someone should tell them it's people that die of prostate cancer, people!!

Men are not being undermined as a demographic.

It is women who are being diminished - by men.

What is routinely depressing about these threads is the refusal to acknowledge that it is perfectly possible to support the equality that transpeople have whilst also wanting to maintain rights for women.

It is always assumed that anyone speaking up for women must therefore be 'phobic' about transpeople, which is a massive leap in logic, as well as being offensive. Further, it is suggested that they must also be racist and homophobic, which is also idiotic and offensive.

There is no reason why a pregnant transman can't be called a parent if the notion of motherhood is too much for their sensibilities, but why take the word, with all its connotations, from women, whose bodies are designed for pregnancy and childbirth? There are far more 'pregnant people' who identify with motherhood than pregnant transmen who do not. I would like to hear one good reason why the wants of a small minority of people on the maternity ward should take priority over the majority.

From today's Telegraph:
A maternity hospital received a low grade on a diversity assessment because staff only use the term “mother” when discussing maternity leave, The Telegraph can disclose.

The Cambridge University Hospital Trust, which manages a maternity hospital called the Rosie, lost points because staff use the term “mother” when referring to the policies it had in place regarding paid leave, instead of broadening it to include gender-neutral alternatives.

The report was carried out by the NHS’ “Rainbow Badge” scheme, which assesses hospitals based on how they treat LGBT patients.

The trust also lost points for not providing staff with guidance on what trans and non-binary employees should wear, pointing out how the trust’s “trans inclusion policy” did not provide “guidance on the dress code for trans employees, including non-binary employees.”

The report also flagged a “cause for concern” about a deluge of comments from staff criticising the trust’s inclusivity efforts for “virtue signaling” instead of providing care, including one comment which said: “We cannot waste taxpayers’ money on tokenism.”

The report said: “0 points were awarded for the Maternity Leave Policy. The policy does not have an inclusion statement to make clear that it applies to all irrespective of gender/gender of partner etc. The policy also refers to “mother” without expanding to include gender-neutral/inclusive terms and only uses he/she pronouns throughout.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/18/maternity-hospital-downgraded-use-term-mother-diversity/

It is indeed depressing Doodledog Our very language and words are being denied us in the interests of "inclusivity" whilst ignoring that actual real biological women are denied any descriptors exclusive to us.

"The only good women are transwomen", to bastardise an old phrase from some absurd cowboy films. Any attempt to promote the interests and rights of women is labelled as transphobic, but the promotion of the interests and rights of transwomen is never labelled anti-women. It is depressing fighting again the fight our grandmothers fought so hard.
It's rather telling that the incursion of transmen into men's areas is so negligible as not to attract any attention at all. I don't recall any transmen winning in men's sporting competitions. I've yet to hear of a transman being awarded a 'man of the year' award. I can't recall ever reading of a transman holding a senior position in any corporation. In fact I can't recall any incident of any kind whereby a transman has ousted a natal man from top dog position. I've obviously missed all those occasions because they must surely be happening in equal numbers to the incursion of transwomen taking women's awards and places? Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable posters could provide links to the successful transmen?

Germanshepherdsmum

You could argue that he has at least as much knowledge of the condition as a natal woman who has not suffered from it. I don’t consider it’s necessary to suffer from endometriosis, or to be a natal woman, in order to be the head of the charity.

I don't have much to add to this except to say, many people head up charities and organisations for things they do not suffer from and many people work extremely hard to cure diseases and treat conditions they have never suffered from.

Thank goodness for every single one of them

We live in an age if equality, this is what equality is supposed to look like. We should be defined by our ability to do a job, not what is in our pants.

What are Steph’s abilities, VS?

Report this morning of a female boxer pulling out of a fight after she was told her opponent was to be a trans woman. The young female boxer pulled out for her own safety.

You say VS ‘we live in an age of equality’. I wish that was true, It seems to me that some of the more vocal/aggressive transwomen are trying to overpower natal women.

Do listen to the interview with Emma Barnett on Woman’s Hour, Steph R did not come out well from that interview.

She sounded like a caring and capable woman. She will be raising funds and awareness so doesn't need a womb.I did however have an issue with the CEO of Marie Stopes..not because he was a man but because he earned, with his bonus, £700,000 in one year.

Like so many ‘woke’ charities, many of which tread a fine line when it comes to politics, this charity appears to have a death wish! It’s such a worthwhile cause but risks alienating so many people with this appointment. Expect to see more of this as society degrades. I have stopped supporting several charities/organisations who show this kind of mindset and I know I am not alone.

Coul we refer this to the new minster in charge of common sense?

We live in an age if equality, this is what equality is supposed to look like. We should be defined by our ability to do a job, not what is in our pants.
Unfortunately, some people favour, what is in male pants when making the appointments.
Did people know that this person was male this time? That would be an improvement at least.

Doodledog

What is routinely depressing about these threads is the refusal to acknowledge that it is perfectly possible to support the equality that transpeople have whilst also wanting to maintain rights for women.

It is always assumed that anyone speaking up for women must therefore be 'phobic' about transpeople, which is a massive leap in logic, as well as being offensive. Further, it is suggested that they must also be racist and homophobic, which is also idiotic and offensive.

There is no reason why a pregnant transman can't be called a parent if the notion of motherhood is too much for their sensibilities, but why take the word, with all its connotations, from women, whose bodies are designed for pregnancy and childbirth? There are far more 'pregnant people' who identify with motherhood than pregnant transmen who do not. I would like to hear one good reason why the wants of a small minority of people on the maternity ward should take priority over the majority.

From today's Telegraph:
A maternity hospital received a low grade on a diversity assessment because staff only use the term “mother” when discussing maternity leave, The Telegraph can disclose.

The Cambridge University Hospital Trust, which manages a maternity hospital called the Rosie, lost points because staff use the term “mother” when referring to the policies it had in place regarding paid leave, instead of broadening it to include gender-neutral alternatives.

The report was carried out by the NHS’ “Rainbow Badge” scheme, which assesses hospitals based on how they treat LGBT patients.

The trust also lost points for not providing staff with guidance on what trans and non-binary employees should wear, pointing out how the trust’s “trans inclusion policy” did not provide “guidance on the dress code for trans employees, including non-binary employees.”

The report also flagged a “cause for concern” about a deluge of comments from staff criticising the trust’s inclusivity efforts for “virtue signaling” instead of providing care, including one comment which said: “We cannot waste taxpayers’ money on tokenism.”

The report said: “0 points were awarded for the Maternity Leave Policy. The policy does not have an inclusion statement to make clear that it applies to all irrespective of gender/gender of partner etc. The policy also refers to “mother” without expanding to include gender-neutral/inclusive terms and only uses he/she pronouns throughout.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/18/maternity-hospital-downgraded-use-term-mother-diversity/

There are far more 'pregnant people' who identify with motherhood than pregnant transmen who do not. I would like to hear one good reason why the wants of a small minority of people on the maternity ward should take priority over the majority

I have rarely read a more patriarchal statement. Patriarchy thrives on persecuting minorities. Minorities should be accorded absolutely the same rights as majorities. Would you apply the same rules to religion. More people are Christian so the views of Muslims or Jews don't matter? Inclusivity is not about removing rights from anyone. It's about treating everyone equally and ensuring that a service provides equal treatment for everyone.
Once the service has provided equal access individuals can ask to be referred to as they wish. So anyone who wants to be called "mother" can be. Personally I always hated professionals who called me "mother" and insisted they used my name. It's a matter of personal choice within equal provision.

I have read several posts misgendering this person. This explains the views expressed imo.

Good grief!

I believe he has said it’s not just a women’s disease. Sorry, they’re the only ones with wombs. I think perhaps it’s not the gender of the leader of a research but their attitude towards the disease, and their ability to apply common sense!

BeverleyJB my feelings exactly.Some people on here have missed the point about his acceptability in the role regarding his misogynistic statement. I also resist the term "terf". Who gives anyone the right to label me this way?

Very interesting interview with this individual on Woman's Hour last week with Emma Barnett. He is a trans activist, as I understand it, and the charity thought he would raise their profile and they certainly have achieved that. I have suffered with endometriosis and then adenomyosis which are very painful. I'm not sure he is the right person to inspire confidence from women and professionals.

You can head a charity being whatever you are. TheHead of Oxfam possibly never experienced poverty etc but has a skills set to run an organisation effectively. Let’s hope this addition to the team is a positive one.
On the back of this post I googled my wonderful gynaecologist who saw me through cervical cancer and found his obituary. I knew he had Alzheimer’s but lost track when he retired. Like many of you have said, he was a male looking after females but he was the most understanding, professional beloved person who always looked after his patients. Plus he had very high standards. I can never thank him enough for how he cared fir me and about me!!

Glorianny So anyone who wants to be called "mother" can be. Personally I always hated professionals who called me "mother" and insisted they used my name. Have you deliberately missed that the use of the term 'mother' was in the context of written material to describe the pregnant woman? There was no indication that anyone was to be addressed as mother rather than by their own name.

Cambia

Coul we refer this to the new minster in charge of common sense?

I doubt McVey is there to exercise common sense - she's a Tory politician!

And I agree with various GNs who have pointed out you don't need to suffer from a disease or be of any particular sex to work hard on behalf of patients. It's when activists stir up the mob that controversy gets in the way of doing the job well.

Wolfie59

I believe he has said it’s not just a women’s disease. Sorry, they’re the only ones with wombs. I think perhaps it’s not the gender of the leader of a research but their attitude towards the disease, and their ability to apply common sense!

Emma Barnett in the interview agreed it's not just a woman's disease. Although the incidence in men is tiny maybe this is because so many think only women suffer.
endometriosisnews.com/endometriosis-in-men/

For those who haven’t, listen to Emma Barnett on ‘Woman’s Hour’ intelligently questioning him. He is a trans activist and a misogynist.

Best of both worlds. Not!

Loobyloo12

BeverleyJB my feelings exactly.Some people on here have missed the point about his acceptability in the role regarding his misogynistic statement. I also resist the term "terf". Who gives anyone the right to label me this way?

Who?
All those who support his appointment regardless of his misogynistic tweets or claim that males can be women.