Endometriosis charity appoints trans woman as the new head of the organisation.

No Mo65.

Shame on all those TW who lie about changing sex and push their misogynistic attitude on everyone else.
Those TW and their fans who believe that everyone should accept the lie that you can change sex.
They are the bigots.

Whether their fantasy involves self ID or chemical/surgical procedures to make them feel like the opposite sex, it’s still a lie.

Cheating, lying, pouring scorn on, offering violence to, or shouting TERF at females is a sign that they despise what they claim to want.

If they actually could change sex, would they find their current actions towards natal women acceptable?
Would they happily accept male domination/patriarchy and misogyny when it is aimed at them?

I doubt it, but because stomping their feet and screaming doesn’t get them what they want, it seems that as males, even those fantasising that they’re women, they think it’s all right to cheat, lie, pour scorn on, offer violence to, or shout TERF at females.

And some females quite obviously support that attitude. Shame on you

Yes, but Steph also made comments about being pleased to be able to raise awareness of endometriosis in men.

Of course any awarenessness raising is good, but given the tiny number of male sufferers, why would it be something to bring up in the first week or so of volunteering for the role, particularly when being pressed on whether it is an exclusively female condition. I thought it was, although I don't know enough about it to be certain, but Emma Barnett insisted that it is, Steph deferred to the founder, saying she is an 'expert', but no real conclusion was reached. In those circumstances, why mention the fact that a tiny number of men have it (according to Steph)? Clearly it would matter to any men concerned, but it came across to me as telling.

As I keep saying though, this is a storm in a teacup. ESC is a tiny charity with a turnover of £8k, not Amazon. Being the CEO is a pastime rather than a job, and the interviews with Steph are about trans issues rather than the condition itself.

OldFrill

Doodledog

I’ve listened to WH, and whilst it’s fair to say that the item was about the appointment of a transwoman, rather than endo itself, Steph seemed far more interested in the 29 men who have it (who knows how many of them are in the South East) than in the many women sufferers. Why might that be, I wonder?

Steohe Richards only mentioned the 29 men once when she said this:
'I’m happy to use the word woman, I realise the vast majority of endometriosis affects women. You’ll also know there’s 29 cases of endometriosis found in men.'

I think that is worldwide.

I mentioned that there are rare cases found in men in my post earlier in the thread.

There are many male gynaecologists, obstetricians. Woukd you say tgey have no understanding of the female body or conditions. However over 16 years I never met a female surgeon dealing with prostate cancer!

4allweknow

There are many male gynaecologists, obstetricians. Woukd you say tgey have no understanding of the female body or conditions. However over 16 years I never met a female surgeon dealing with prostate cancer!

There have always been more male gynaecologists and obstetricians, partly because of the female struggles to become doctors. Pretending to be or lying about being a woman doesn’t make you any better at it.

4allweknow

There are many male gynaecologists, obstetricians. Woukd you say tgey have no understanding of the female body or conditions. However over 16 years I never met a female surgeon dealing with prostate cancer!

I think many posters have indicated that they object to SR's attitude and not the fact that she's a transgender woman.

If I knew nothing about her activism in the TG community I'd only be interested in whether she could do the job - because that is what counts.

But she's making her activism part and parcel of it. And her derogatory labelling of those women who disagree with her as TERFS I believe, makes her unsuitable.

Like any other job - your private life and your political identity / leanings, or even religion, should remain personal and private and not affect the way you do your job. IMO.

SR has made it fairly clear that she's not really in that category - but if you look at the charity (it's a really small one) - they are very much on board with her thinking. So it's fait accompli.

The bigger picture is how the majority of women, minority of transmen and the non-binary access help and treatment from the NHS.

The world’s gone friggin’ mad - that’s all I can say!! He’s clearly confrontational and only interested in promoting his own, ridiculous agenda. More fool those who appointed him …

I know of a female consultant urologist who deals with prostate problems of all kinds, 4allweknow. They do exist!

If someone wishes to refer to themselves with whatever terminology; fill your boots. I don’t have an issue and will use whichever pronouns or language they wish to ascribe for themselves. Where I have a problem is when someone expects me to adhere to the terminology they chose to ascribe to me. I’m not a TERF, CIS woman, person who menstruates, I a a woman. You do you, by all means, but you don’t get to say how half the population of the world are described…

SHE. SHE not he. For goodness if people on here are going to argue against her being in charge at least get Her pronoun correct.

They

NannyC1

SHE. SHE not he. For goodness if people on here are going to argue against her being in charge at least get Her pronoun correct.

When those like SR stop using terminology like TERF / CIS - which they know we do not accept for those of us who are outside of their TG world, I'll respect their preferred pronoun.

Fascinating that again, women are expected to facilitate life for others, especially for men

They was just a suggestion but as a father of three with his ex-wife, Steph Richards presumably has a penis, testicles and produced sperm, so he is a he no matter what he claims.

I would never use female pronouns for a man, I believe gender is a range of deeply damaging sterotypes so I am not going to help reinforce them in the same way I wouldnt embrace racist stereotypes.

Mollygo

Glorianny
You may have not realised that transmen are female, as are those who give birth but claim to be non-binary. (A nonsense if ever there was one. By giving birth they have proved they are of female sex, i.e. binary.)
What right have they to alter text for everyone, to suit themselves.
If you want to be called by your name instead of mother go for it.
You are Glorianny, the glorianny of a child who is obliged to call you Glorianny or being offended by anyone who passes a comment e.g. what a clever child -you must be such a proud glorianny,
just because you don’t like the term mother (or presumably any derivatives e.g. mum, ma, mummy etc.)

I've no objections to any of those words used by the people who they apply to. Only my children are entitled to use them No one else.

I have names and a title. Others can use those.

Why is non-binary "nonsense"? What right have you to insist everyone conforms to your narrow views? You are entitled to your prejudices, you are not entitled to inflict them on others.

You are entitled to your prejudices, you are not entitled to inflict them on others one for Steph Richards.

It doesn’t matter who they are as long as they can do the job. A very narrow minded view of the world

Pinkrinse

It doesn’t matter who they are as long as they can do the job. A very narrow minded view of the world

No-one's arguing that .

With a proven misogynistic attitude towards women, can he do the job? Is he the right person?

Well you’re a perfectionist in being narrow minded and prejudiced Glorianny so I’m surprised you judge others.
But only females can give birth, so giving birth is a binary action, not the action of someone who claims to be neither male nor female.

To be non-binary is to acknowledge the binary. Now we have a new binary, those that accept the truth of binary sex classes and those that don't. So they're still part of a binary........

The head of the Prostate Cancer charity is a woman - it seems to work fine.
My only issue with Steph is that she won't acknowledge that endometriosis is a problem for women. She won't use the term 'woman', which I find insulting.

I think that’s the only issue most people have. There has been a lot of jumping to conclusions about this, with people accusing others of transphobia simply for asking questions about Steph, but in most cases the fact that Steph is male-bodied isn’t the issue. It was a political appointment designed to get publicity for a tiny charity which has a local reach and is already positioned as trans-supportive. All the accusations and assumptions are doing is fuelling that publicity.

people keep harking on about female consultants being in charge of male medical conditions... the point is - do any of them ever say - you know there are 29 women with prostate problems? ...no they deal with their job properly knowing that one half of the human race potentially suffer from the condition, so concentrate on them. They are not obsessed with their trans identity. which is NOT the aim of the charity.

It is because the trans movement has succeeded in confusing sex with gender in the minds of many that this has become an issue. If Steph 'identified' as a man, nobody would have batted an eyelid.