Endometriosis charity appoints trans woman as the new head of the organisation.

I think that Callistemon is correct in that the 29 cases of endo. in men will be world wide. When I looked into this, I found it was extremely rare with only a handful of reported cases in medical literature.

Steph didn't provide any validating information to support this claim.

Women being erased and other women supporting it with their virtue signalling rubbish. Careful what you wish for…

Doodledog

It is because the trans movement has succeeded in confusing sex with gender in the minds of many that this has become an issue. If Steph 'identified' as a man, nobody would have batted an eyelid.

Good point, Doodledog.

It is not in this instance the male body that is the problem.

It is that "female brain" that Steph insists she has that directs her to stumble over the word, 'woman' and finds difficulty in comprehending that "so-called males" are, in fact, men.

Smileless2012

I think that Callistemon is correct in that the 29 cases of endo. in men will be world wide. When I looked into this, I found it was extremely rare with only a handful of reported cases in medical literature.

Steph didn't provide any validating information to support this claim.

Once again it will be transmen she is referring to. Men are no longer just people assigned male at birth but include transmen, and that's one reason why the whole subject isn't just a women's issue.
People are changing. It isn't just men.

Glorianny

Smileless2012

I think that Callistemon is correct in that the 29 cases of endo. in men will be world wide. When I looked into this, I found it was extremely rare with only a handful of reported cases in medical literature.

Steph didn't provide any validating information to support this claim.

Once again it will be transmen she is referring to. Men are no longer just people assigned male at birth but include transmen, and that's one reason why the whole subject isn't just a women's issue.
People are changing. It isn't just men.

Once again it will be transmen she is referring to.

No, I'm not, Glorianny

It's very rare indeed but can be caused in men by liver damage.

Well researched there Callistemon. Oddly enough, I assumed this related to people born as men rather than trans men. We don’t all need patronising do we

Or told what we're referring to when we're not.

When I said men I meant men.

Oh MEN - wot are they?

With a few rare exceptions endometriosis only affects female bodies. So if the word woman is such a stumbling block for Steph and co (except of course when self-describing) then target the support to women and transmen.

Glorianny

Smileless2012

I think that Callistemon is correct in that the 29 cases of endo. in men will be world wide. When I looked into this, I found it was extremely rare with only a handful of reported cases in medical literature.

Steph didn't provide any validating information to support this claim.

Once again it will be transmen she is referring to. Men are no longer just people assigned male at birth but include transmen, and that's one reason why the whole subject isn't just a women's issue.
People are changing. It isn't just men.

I'm pretty sure Steph meant men of the male variety. Those observed to be male at birth, not 'assigned' as some would have it. I do wonder what criteria the 'assigned believers' think midwives use when 'assigning' sex.....do they insist on equal numbers each day, alternate between male and female, throw a die and odd numbers are males even numbers get to be female?

Iam64

Oh MEN - wot are they?

Those sometimes awkward creatures who often like to be in charge of everything.

I disagree Glorianny. I had no idea how many women suffer from endo. I've no idea how many women are trans men but I very much doubt that only 29 trans men ie women suffer from with this condition, so I googled it.

I've just googled it. 1 in 10 women between the age of puberty and menopause have endo. That's 1.5 million, the same number of women who have diabetes, so what are the odds than only 29 of that 1.5 million are trans men?

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Smileless2012

I disagree Glorianny. I had no idea how many women suffer from endo. I've no idea how many women are trans men but I very much doubt that only 29 trans men ie women suffer from with this condition, so I googled it.

I've just googled it. 1 in 10 women between the age of puberty and menopause have endo. That's 1.5 million, the same number of women who have diabetes, so what are the odds than only 29 of that 1.5 million are trans men?

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I meant XY men, and cases are extremely rare but not unheard of.

Smileless2012

I disagree Glorianny. I had no idea how many women suffer from endo. I've no idea how many women are trans men but I very much doubt that only 29 trans men ie women suffer from with this condition, so I googled it.

I've just googled it. 1 in 10 women between the age of puberty and menopause have endo. That's 1.5 million, the same number of women who have diabetes, so what are the odds than only 29 of that 1.5 million are trans men?

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I didn't mean that the 29 are transmen. I meant that when referring to men Steph will use the term men to cover men and transmen, of course she will.
I know it is hard for some t understand but for transpeople, women includes natal women and transwomen and men includes transmen and natal men.

No, I don't think we find it's difficult

However, you did seem to find it difficult to understand what I meant, which seemed fairly straightforward.

That's neither here nor there Glorianny. If the 29 includes men and trans men, that makes it even more unlikely that the figure is only 29.

Glorianny

Smileless2012

I disagree Glorianny. I had no idea how many women suffer from endo. I've no idea how many women are trans men but I very much doubt that only 29 trans men ie women suffer from with this condition, so I googled it.

I've just googled it. 1 in 10 women between the age of puberty and menopause have endo. That's 1.5 million, the same number of women who have diabetes, so what are the odds than only 29 of that 1.5 million are trans men?

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I didn't mean that the 29 are transmen. I meant that when referring to men Steph will use the term men to cover men and transmen, of course she will.
I know it is hard for some t understand but for transpeople, women includes natal women and transwomen and men includes transmen and natal men.

So when Steph mentioned 29 men having endometriosis then Steph was definitely making a distinction between men and transmen, as that number only applies to the affected males. Is it only Steph who is allowed to use men to mean males only?
I'll take this opportunity to repost an earlier point I made

This is a direct quote from one of Steph's tweets Many gynaecologists are men - I don't see any headlines about them. Some midwives are men - I don't see any headlines about them either. And how about the male paramedic who may deal with miscarriage or prolapse - there are no headlines about them either. Am I wrong?

No, I am not.

It would appear Steph identifies in the same group as the men referred to in the quote. Freudian slip, or a bit of honesty?

Glorianny
I know it is hard for some t understand but for transpeople, women includes natal women and transwomen and men includes transmen and natal men.

It’s not hard for anyone to understand that people will use the language which suits their purpose, even if that includes lying by implication, that they have changed sex.

What’s hard to understand is why one group of people expect others to accept their lies. Transwomen are male - AHM -MEN.
Transmen are female - AHF- WOMEN.

Saying or implying anything different is a lie. Evidently some people are willing to lie or accept lies if it suits their purpose.

It’s quite strange, the women and men I know do not insist that they are men or women; the only trans I know do not insist they have changed sex and must be called by different words or pronouns. It simply doesn’t come up in conversation, so no lying or expectation of lies being believed.

Rosie51

Glorianny

Smileless2012

I think that Callistemon is correct in that the 29 cases of endo. in men will be world wide. When I looked into this, I found it was extremely rare with only a handful of reported cases in medical literature.

Steph didn't provide any validating information to support this claim.

Once again it will be transmen she is referring to. Men are no longer just people assigned male at birth but include transmen, and that's one reason why the whole subject isn't just a women's issue.
People are changing. It isn't just men.

I'm pretty sure Steph meant men of the male variety. Those observed to be male at birth, not 'assigned' as some would have it. I do wonder what criteria the 'assigned believers' think midwives use when 'assigning' sex.....do they insist on equal numbers each day, alternate between male and female, throw a die and odd numbers are males even numbers get to be female?

It's a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters by those, like Steph, who hold that men, women - and even children are just social-constructs.

Gender and sex are not synonymous and sex, except in rare cases, is observed at birth, not flippin' well assigned.

Assigning sex is another subtle attempt at an Orwellian change of language to suit an agenda. And part of that agenda is to force the majority to accept that if a man decides he's a woman, biological sex can be denied because he says so. That is why you see written on the placards of some TW activists references to their "girl dicks". Some even go so far (if you read the literature) as to assert that a penis is a female sex organ. He has assigned it so!

And asserting that children are social constructs is, IMO, dangerous. Though I think that Steph might be in a minority holding that ridiculous belief.

I just wish the aggressive transwomen would just shut up and leave the rest of the transwomen to lead a quiet/happy life that suits them. And definitely stop infiltrating women’s sport, WI, and ‘safe women’s spaces’.

They definitely don’t change their male brains after transitioning.

They definitely don’t change their male brains after transitioning.

I know that you probably meant that seriously, and yes, it is absolutely true but 😂😂😂 NanKate!

NanKate

I just wish the aggressive transwomen would just shut up and leave the rest of the transwomen to lead a quiet/happy life that suits them. And definitely stop infiltrating women’s sport, WI, and ‘safe women’s spaces’.

They definitely don’t change their male brains after transitioning.

Well said NanKate.

I think the main issue with this appointment is the fact the trans person obviously has disdain for women evidenced by their tweets , calling us cis and terfs. Also that they focus on the very small percentage of men with the condition rather than the vast majority who are female and they want to remove the gynaecological involvement!

Never been called a terf or minded the word cis and I am not the only one

Just saying

VioletSky

Never been called a terf or minded the word cis and I am not the only one

Just saying

VS
I’m not the only one
So what?
I’ve never been called a terf, but I can’t condone the actions of those who do use that term, whether trans or their fans.
Do you condone the use of that term?

I find cis rude as it implies females need a qualifying term. It’s usually used by those who think we should accept the lie that men (AHM) can be women (AHF). They can’t!
If they are prepared to lie about one thing because it suits their purpose, how can they be trusted not to lie about anything else.
If people support and perpetrate that lie, we can’t be sure they are trustworthy in other situations.