Politicising our children.

Katie59

Children are “used” by adults for illegal activity because the can’t be prosecuted in the same way as an adult would. Shouting abuse or Drugs couriers it amounts to the same thing, wether it is teachers or parents children should be given a balance view not the bias that an adult may have.

If they are in the care of an adult the adult can be prosecuted if the abuse is discriminatory (as shouting abuse about Jews is)

ruthiek

I was in London recently when the protests were going on and I was horrified by the amount of young children who were parading the Palestinian flag and were covered in the colour of Palestine on their faces . These children were not Middle Eastern and were very young and one child in particular was shouting the most awful things about Jews, they couldn’t have understood what they were saying but the adults with them were encouraging these chants . There is no hope for humanity if this sort of thing is allowed to continue

Ho do you know "they were not Middle Eastern". Many families look white but are Palestinian, many families are mixed heritage with one British white parent and one Palestinian. You can't tell someone is from Palestine or any of the countries in the Middle East just by looking. The only possible exception being if you are close enough to see the colour of their eyes, they very rarely have blue eyes.
If they were. chanting about Jews they could have been arrested. Were they chanting about Israel because that's different.

Children are “used” by adults for illegal activity because the can’t be prosecuted in the same way as an adult would. Shouting abuse or Drugs couriers it amounts to the same thing, wether it is teachers or parents children should be given a balance view not the bias that an adult may have.

Saying one thing and reneging. Accusing people who disagree with you of Islamophobia or transphobia or any other phobia, and it’s dismissed by this own goal.

That's all opinion and sadly lacking in facts but who cares about them?

You get better Glorian y

I was in London recently when the protests were going on and I was horrified by the amount of young children who were parading the Palestinian flag and were covered in the colour of Palestine on their faces . These children were not Middle Eastern and were very young and one child in particular was shouting the most awful things about Jews, they couldn’t have understood what they were saying but the adults with them were encouraging these chants . There is no hope for humanity if this sort of thing is allowed to continue

Joseann

*You said you believe- that's opinion.*
It wasn't actually in this case. It was meant as, "I haven't time to check in any documentation so I'll have to hope it's true".
There are two different meanings of the verb to believe if you check..
Anyway, I have less than 15 minutes before my next lesson in the classroom, so I'll be off. Nothing to do with being unable to make a proper riposte - the word has an e on the end by the way.

Ah spelling corrections the last refuge of the desperate on GN.
Enjoy your lesson. Nothing to do with logic if the children are under 9 I hope. You might be damaging their brain.
(That's all opinion and sadly lacking in facts but who cares about them?)

You said you believe- that's opinion.
It wasn't actually in this case. It was meant as, "I haven't time to check in any documentation so I'll have to hope it's true".
There are two different meanings of the verb to believe if you check..
Anyway, I have less than 15 minutes before my next lesson in the classroom, so I'll be off. Nothing to do with being unable to make a proper riposte - the word has an e on the end by the way.

Joseann

I feel you like to twist words on every thread Glorianny to gain some form of superiority.
This is a discussion forum where opinions should be be valued, not shouted down.
Actually I was the poster who pointed out that reasoning in the prefrontal cortex of the brain,doesn't develop until around Year 4 (age 8 years). What is not factual or scientific about that comment?
Secondly, when speaking about my own DGC why eould I not want to give an opinion?

You said you believe- that's opinion
Logical reasoning is a process. It doesn't just appear overnight at a certain age. Which is why we begin to teach it in Year 1.
Are you saying we don't?
You also said perhaps we run the risk of damaging the way in which the brain works
So are you suggesting that the teaching of the basis of logic in Year 1 is harmful?
This idea that I somehow twist what people say is becoming tedious. It only emerges when a poster is unable to make a proper ripost to my remarks.

I feel you like to twist words on every thread Glorianny to gain some form of superiority.
This is a discussion forum where opinions should be be valued, not shouted down.
Actually I was the poster who pointed out that reasoning in the prefrontal cortex of the brain,doesn't develop until around Year 4 (age 8 years). What is not factual or scientific about that comment?
Secondly, when speaking about my own DGC why eould I not want to give an opinion?

I like children to develop reasoning skills ASAP! Life is much better for them when and if they do. For once I am in accord with Glorianny.

Joseann

I agree.
Surely throughout their development there are plateaus reached in children's brains which cannot be forced to expand. I believe that it isn't until around Year 4 that the front part of the brain, that does all the logical thinking, actually comes online. If we start feeding the brain with sophisticated complex reasoning too early on, then perhaps we run the risk of damaging the way in which the brain works. It is better to wait until children have an understanding of context. Most posters on here seem to agree that this is not until children reach top juniors.
I want my young grandchildren, Years 3 and even Year 5, to enjoy having a soul, not just a brain unnaturally and prematurely coached in reasoning skills.

Logical thinking is a process which develops between the ages of 7-11. It is a process which is taught in schools from year 1. It begins with learning to distinguish between fact and opinion, by year 6 children are analysing newspaper articles to find what is fact and what opinion.
Your post has a lot of opinion, but very few facts.

That is in response to Callistemon and Katie59.

I agree.
Surely throughout their development there are plateaus reached in children's brains which cannot be forced to expand. I believe that it isn't until around Year 4 that the front part of the brain, that does all the logical thinking, actually comes online. If we start feeding the brain with sophisticated complex reasoning too early on, then perhaps we run the risk of damaging the way in which the brain works. It is better to wait until children have an understanding of context. Most posters on here seem to agree that this is not until children reach top juniors.
I want my young grandchildren, Years 3 and even Year 5, to enjoy having a soul, not just a brain unnaturally and prematurely coached in reasoning skills.

AmberSpyglass

Nine year olds in Gaza are deliberately being exposed to the realities of war every day and our government is doing nothing. If you care about children being allowed to enjoy their innocence for as long as possible, channel your outrage into somewhere it will actually do good rather than being appalled that young people are growing up with news literacy.

Presuming you are outraged, what are you doing?

I agree.
I have heard a very young DGD worrying about issues she had heard about in school but was still too young to understand and debate.

Part of the stress and mental health issues that children have today is because adult issues become part of their lives too early. Before they are mature enough to have a balanced view, it’s not just politics it’s welfare, environment or any other cause that they become fixated on.

Sago 👍

Children are worried enough about their futures with all the publicity about climate change and which is also taught in schools.

Agreed Sago.

Sago

I really don’t want this thread to become Isreal v Palestine.
No matter what our views are on this topic, this is about our children and grandchildren being used as pawns in the political games of adults.

Agree Sago.

I really don’t want this thread to become Isreal v Palestine.
No matter what our views are on this topic, this is about our children and grandchildren being used as pawns in the political games of adults.

Germanshepherdsmum

Children of 9 being taught at school about the Palestinian cause? Good grief.

I just hope the teach the children what the matter looks like seen from the Israeli side of the discussion, not to mention world Jewry as well,

But no, not at the age of nine or anywhere near it!

15 or 16 is time enough.

AmberSpyglass

Doesn’t really excuse the genocide though, does it?

Nothing excuses genocide but it doesn't mean my young infant/junior children need to know about it.

Who is trying to excuse it? The fact that it happens doesn’t mean that young children should know the details.

I agree with you wholeheartedly Sago.

Doesn’t really excuse the genocide though, does it?