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DollyD Wed 17-Jan-24 20:49:27

We have been friends for nearly 20years and although we don’t live very close to each other, we have met every few weeks for lunch, cinema, sight seeing etc.
We have always got on really well and have similar interests, enjoyed each others company and usually have a laugh.
Until a few years ago, when we decided to go away for a few days. It’s difficult to describe what she was like but I found myself walking on egg shells, as she seemed slightly snappy sometimes as though I was getting on her nerves, while the other half of the time perfectly normal.
I put it down to nerves the first time we went away, as she does suffer from this occasionally but I still found it a shock that in all the time I had known her, I had never seen her like this.
So, the next year she wants to go away again but for a week, I was fine with it as I thought maybe she would be “herself” this time but no, more or less the minute we set off travelling this other Jekyll and Hyde person appeared,
I’m not a door mat and sometimes I have stood my ground when she wants something her way, or at her time but it’s not the best is it? Having to be snippy with your friend.
She also makes a time for breakfast, then goes to the dining room early and then rings me to tell me she’s waiting, I usually tell her I’m not ready yet and I’ll see her at 8.30 and then she looks slightly angry when I appear, on the dot. Very strange.
I don’t know what I’m asking here really but has anyone any idea what is going on with her behaviour or had someone behave in a similar fashion.
Maybe even, how you would deal with it, apart from not going away with her at all, as I do enjoy her company a lot of the time.

BettyBoop49 Sun 21-Jan-24 12:42:30

I’m 75 now and was once a highly social creature with lots of friends. I always tried to make everyone happy; listened to their problems; organised days out etc. Suddenly after lockdown for some reason, I noticed that so called friends were often critical of me and made nasty comments (“only joking”) which hurt deeply.
I now have very few friends and feel better for it. Yes at times it feels lonely but rather that than being left feeling confused and upset by the bitchy attitude of friends.
Is it only me but now as I age, I long for that cabin close by a river or a forest from which to find solitude and contentment?

Alison333 Sun 21-Jan-24 12:53:12

As Ali23 described in her post, it does sound as if this woman might also be showing signs of autistic behaviour.

Having 'nerves' or anxiety and wanting to stick to the 'rules' is a bit of a giveaway. Being away from her comfort zone in a new environment would be likely to bring out all the symptoms that she can 'mask' in her own everyday life.

Whatever it is, she obviously finds it hard to handle being away from home and there is lots of good advice on here about how you could respond to the situation. I hope you can still enjoy her friendship but perhaps limit the holidays!

Nicolenet Sun 21-Jan-24 13:39:04

I used to have a friend like that. She had been quite poor when little. 40 years later she was always talking about money, she had more than average. What if she bought a thatched cottage... Always comparing notes, see what she might be missing. In the end I had enough and stopped seeing her. I feel so much happier now and enjoy my retirement with a lot of other people friendly, intelligent and excellent company. Her loss

Suzieque66 Sun 21-Jan-24 14:07:07

I had a lovely friend years ago , she was much older than me . We both had a baby at the same time and bonded but when the children started school I thought that I would be free to widen my horizons but she wouldnt take the hint. She wanted to come to everything I went to and frankly made my life a misery. Why are some people so unaware ?...

Gwyllt Sun 21-Jan-24 14:13:13

A number of these post have a similarity
It might be interesting to look up the characteristics of these folk and see what personality types are suggested
I did and it explained a lot at a personal level

welbeck Sun 21-Jan-24 14:14:36

Suzieque66, sounds like a misunderstanding, or misaligned expectations of what being friends means.
you say she was lovely, and that you bonded.
so maybe if she started going to different things, she would have enjoyed them even more if you went too.
so she assumed you felt the same.
it's not an outlandish assumption in the circumstances.
i think this hint not taking is a very fraught area; what seems obvious to one person may well not have occurred to another.
and hinting or expecting others to take a hint can easily morph into passive aggressive.
in what ways did she make your life a misery?

SunnySusie Sun 21-Jan-24 16:39:01

Would it work for you and your friend to go away 'together' on a group holiday. Its quite a common thing to do. I have been on several holidays with Exodus, Ramblers and HF and often a couple of friends have been part of the group. I find most people (including me!) are on their best behaviour in a group situation, not wanting to rock the boat or upset other group members. You get to spend a lot of time with your friend, but if they are starting to get on your nerves there are plenty of other people to talk to. Group members tend to sit together for meals so it doesnt matter what time you turn up in the dining room for example.

Sennelier1 Sun 21-Jan-24 18:57:34

I guess she doesn't féél like herself on holiday so she doesn't behave like herself. Maybe she feels insecure away from her daily surroundings? I wouldn't go with her anymore, just keep up with your regular activities together. If she insists, yes try and explain why you prefer to see her in both your comfort-zones.

undines Sun 21-Jan-24 19:08:48

Basically, it's dodgy going on holidays with friends and I believe one is lucky if it goes okay and you remain friends. I've done it a few times. It works well with one couple. My friend likes to find a cafe and sit with her paper, sudoku and crossword (yes, Prague, Amsterdam, Budapest, Riga - always the same, bless her!) while I love to dash about. Our partners sort of fit in around us. We are all very easy going, but I have also had some worse experiences and they have definitely dented the friendship. People get controlling and anxious, and we all look at things in different ways. Best avoid any risk, if you can - it's not always easy to imagine how things will be.

Katie59 Sun 21-Jan-24 19:26:50

It can be very difficult going on holiday with friends, you see a different side of them, almost like a relationship. Compare it with a new boyfriend, you may find getting along fine for dates but a holiday when you’re together for a week or two difficult.
It’s just how people are we all have our own little foibles and routines that may irritate others.

Soozikinzi Sun 21-Jan-24 23:06:01

My husband is on alot of medications some for anxiety heart condition etc and he can be like this on holiday. Especially
for the first couple of days . Then he settles down. It works out better if we go to the same place again. But that's my DH we had good holidays when we were young before he had all these conditions. I would just do the successful meet ups and perhaps a one night stay in a hotel. I do one nights away with my friend of 20 years and one night is enough for me !

yellowfox Mon 22-Jan-24 08:34:47

Make an escuse and go away alone.
Being away with friends does not always work. We are all used to our own little foibles and nothing will suit everyone be it a group or just two people. This is a holiday that you are paying for and you want to make the best of it.
I always travel by myself. You can do exactly as you please at your own pace and meet lots of new people to chat with.