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Have any of you got all electric cars? Pros and cons please.

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Sago Thu 18-Jan-24 20:41:14

I have an electric car whilst mine is being serviced, I’m not sure what I think, the drive is great but the range could stress me out, today with heated seats etc it ate through the power!

My husband was also given an EV last time his car was in, it was a more sophisticated vehicle with super fast charging and we loved it.

However we would only have one EV and it would be more likely it would be mine that we would use for short local journeys and my husband’s for longer journeys.

I would love to hear your experiences.

Boz Fri 19-Jan-24 16:20:02

I have an EV but as it is a second car, I use it for local running around - swimming, shopping etc.. We use DH's car for longer journeys.
It is proving very cheap to run on off=peak charging in the garage at night. I have an app. on my phone which tells me battery power. We also have an app. giving us the nearest charging points on a long journey.
I wasn't over-fussed about a new car but it was a birthday present and I wanted something bang-up-to-date to pass on to my grandchildren when I have to give up driving.

Sago Fri 19-Jan-24 16:28:18

Thank you all, I have just returned from the dealership, I pick up a new petrol mini next week.
I’m not ready for the EV revolution!
Staff assured me the future vehicles will have a much greater range, I’m still not convinced.

NannyKnit Fri 19-Jan-24 16:30:26

My ex-neighbour was here this afternoon for a catch up & we were talking about cars. She’s on her 2nd BMW hybrid & said that in this cold weather the charge drops significantly, just having the blowers on to clear the windscreen.
Not sure I fancy the stress of finding chargers when travelling any distance. We have 1 car (from new) which is nearly 7 yrs old and only done about 30k miles in it so are unlikely to be changing it any time soon. We don’t drive a lot but do go on touring holidays to quite remote parts of the country.

Grannynannywanny Fri 19-Jan-24 16:44:37

My son and Dil have a Nissan Leaf for their second car. Bought second hand about 3 years ago so now 5 years old. It’s used mainly by my Dil for her 20 mile round trip to work. They have a charging unit on the house. The range has declined over the years and now only does about 70 miles. Fine for them as it’s only driven locally and they use their large family car for further afield.

I’ve used it a few times but I had an underlying anxiety about the battery despite my son’s reassurance that I’d be fine for 60-70 miles on a full charge. I was expecting it to do like my phone and suddenly drain and switch off.

annodomini Fri 19-Jan-24 17:04:20

DS and DiL have had a Nissan Leaf since EVs began to be trendy. He encouraged me to try driving it which I found very easy - I call it 'a dodgem'. Her newer company car is a Tesla - a car that seems to think for you!

Joseann Thu 25-Apr-24 13:51:38

Interesting thread, because a lot of doubts are now crossing my mind too.
I'm about to buy a new car, and I'd like an electric one, but now I'm not convinced. Normally impulsive, I just buy what I think I like, but it's the recharging issue which has really got me thinking.
I've just driven over to Cornwall for a holiday, which I do on a regular basis. The distance wouldn't be an issue, but recharging places seen few and far between once here. Added to that, I've just read the blurb on the house, and in BIG UNDERLINED CAPITALS, it states that under no circumstances can visitors use the 13 Amp sockets at the property to recharge. I guess it's a Health & Safety thing, and nearly all holiday lets state this.
A bit more research seems to suggest that the only sockets to be used are those made by MK because other cheaper varieties can have problems.
So far, and reading here, it's looking like a No from me. Any other experiences either way?

NotAGran55 Thu 25-Apr-24 14:03:39

Joseann you can safely charge an EV through a standard 13 amp socket but it will be very slow.
The holiday lets don’t want a big bill, that’s why they say not to do it.

karmalady Thu 25-Apr-24 14:07:04

If you ran out of charge on a quiet lane, you could not ask a passing motorist to bring a gallon of petrol to get you to the nearest garage

NotAGran55 Thu 25-Apr-24 14:09:29

That’s very true Karmalady, however you could also carry a portable charger with you for emergencies.

Joseann Thu 25-Apr-24 14:11:05

I did wonder that. Would they know I had charged the car if say I had used very little electricity otherwise? Like eating out (no use of oven), hardly using dishwasher, washing machine, tumble drier etc. What I mean is, how is the car recharging consumption recorded? Isn't separate? (NOT that I'm thinking of cheating).

Joseann Thu 25-Apr-24 14:12:14

*Is it not Isn't

nanna8 Thu 25-Apr-24 14:18:59

A lot have Teslas here but I don’t know how they cope with our vast distances because there are very few places to charge them as yet. I suppose they just use them for local drives.

NotAGran55 Thu 25-Apr-24 14:28:30

Joseann only guessing, but I expect they would be keeping an eye on their smart meter app!

Missedout Fri 26-Apr-24 00:09:07

DH's reliable and long-lived old, non ULEZ compliant diesel estate car (after 150,000 miles) developed several expensive faults. We considered an electric car replacement but not for long. There is no way we could afford a new EV and second-hand ones have lower ranges and the technology has already moved on. We feel that we can't get a local mechanic to check an EV over and how any maintenance can be carried out in our local village garage. We have family who live 200 miles away and who we visit as often as we can. We also have a trailer which we regularly use. EVs that are suitable for towing are even more expensive.

We ended up opting for a second-hand (2 years old) replacement diesel estate car. It meets current emission standards, is modern and comfortable, drives smoothly and quietly and does 600 miles on a single tank of diesel (yes -really 600 miles - we checked it carefully). No range worries, low pollution, lots of room (we helped family to move house with the back seats down) and less weight and size than the heavy electric SUVs that would have to replace the estate car.

If new diesel cars are phased out for the 2030's, we think we will be too old for it to matter to us. I just have to hope that, by the time we have to give up driving, our local bus to the nearest town runs more often than 4 times a day.

NotSpaghetti Fri 26-Apr-24 00:40:13

Jewelle and Germanshepherdsmum - I remember running out of petrol in "the old days" - and we nearly did it about 5 years ago in America (!)... no fuel for 100 miles or more.

Moonwatcher1904 Fri 26-Apr-24 01:18:56

It wouldn't be much use for us to get an EV. Several reasons - we live in a second floor flat and so no chance of us having a charging point. We are both retired and the nearest charging points are in a main shopping street a couple of miles away. We would have to go out early in the morning to get parked next to one of them as the street fills up quickly with cars.
We will keep going in our petrol car. I will be into my 80's by the time the 2030's comes so will probably be using my bus pass by then. We have a good bus and tram service to our local towns.

Grammaretto Fri 26-Apr-24 01:35:53

My friend, who is in her late 80s has had a second hand, all EV for 5 years. She drives fairly short regular journeys, has a home charging point and bought it with an interest free loan from the Scottish government.

She gives many of us lifts and is very much admired. She has a blue badge too as she is disabled.

I know 3 other EV owners who were inspired by her.
There are several local charging points but I think ranganxiety is still an issue.

In June this year strict emission rules will force many to get rid of their large or diesel cars if they want to drive into Edinburgh. Parking costs are prohibitive anyway.

One family, who have 2 EVs recently went from Scotland to Wales on holiday and ran into a few holdups.
Too much of an adventure for the faint hearted.

I drive a 10yr old petrol Toyota but I am well served by free buses so the car gets little use. I lend it to friends in emergencies.

My DS drives a hybrid which he leases from volvo.

Grammaretto Fri 26-Apr-24 01:38:24

energysavingtrust.org.uk/grants-and-loans/used-electric-vehicle-loan/

Mamie Fri 26-Apr-24 05:37:27

We have had an all electric Peugeot 2008 for two years and we love it. We have a charging point in our courtyard which does 90% of our charging needs overnight on cheap rate. No problems on longer journeys, plenty of fast chargers now and a 20 minute stop every 250 km is fine by us. We can plan our charging stops in advance on an app, which we tend to do for long cross-country journeys. Our range is 320km, but newer cars have more, our daughter's Audi does 300 miles. We use heating and aircon as normal. Range drops in minus temperatures, but not dramatically and traffic jams are not a problem, because of regenerative breaking, which you use about 90-95% of the time.
It is a joy to drive, handles brilliantly, there is minimal servicing and you don't have to queue for petrol.

Mamie Fri 26-Apr-24 06:02:09

My daughter's experience in the UK on long journeys is that it is best to plan ahead and stop where there are banks of fast chargers and a coffee shop. You do need to prepare with an app for this unless you have done the journey before. They have done lots of long journeys, including rural areas around the UK and haven't had a problem. If you don't plan and leave charging to the last minute you may miss out on fast chargers and end up with a longer wait. The number of charging points is going up all the time.

Allsorts Fri 26-Apr-24 06:03:46

I would have a Hybrid but not all electric. The stress and uncertainty would be too much. I like to fill mine up with petrol and know how far I could travel on that.

Joseann Fri 26-Apr-24 06:10:49

That's really interesting Mamie, the Peugeot is on my list, along with the new Citroën Aircross but that isn't available here in the UK yet. I often travel by car to France and it sounds like you are well set up for recharging points over there. The important thing for me is boot space for the large dogs.
Yes, I think rangeanxiety is a real thing. I'm not very good at keeping an eye on practical things, preferring a more impetuous attitude to driving, but I guess like anything else you get used to being more organised.

Aveline Fri 26-Apr-24 06:13:07

DH is a very keen car man. He's not a fan of electric vehicles at all and will point out all the problems at the drop of a hat. However, it's interesting that the major European car manufacturers are stopping making them. DH feels that synthetic fuels are the answer and that their use has been stifled by the rush to EVs. With synthetic fuels we could all go on using our existing cars.
I can only speculate on the hidden commercial agendas around this area. So many at variance with each other.

rosie1959 Fri 26-Apr-24 06:33:40

My DH is in the process of looking for a new can he is changing to a SUV to make it easier for him to get in and out due to a medical condition he suffers from. He presently has an xf Jag which looks very sleek but is very low He is looking at the F pace rather than the I pace he is still not convinced about electric cars. Apart from the cost the faff of having to stop and find a recharging point rather than a quick fill up is not appealing.

Mamie Fri 26-Apr-24 06:38:32

The major EU car manufacturers are not stopping making electric cars, though a couple are slowing down. One of the problems has been that people with vested interests in fossil fuels have pumped out horror stories which have been taken up by some parts of the press. For example, car park or boat fires have been instantly blamed on EVs and there has been very little publicity when the proof emerges that EVs were not the cause. The Guardian published a series of articles debunking the myths, which should be easy to find if people are interested.
Joseann it might be worth a look at the ePeugeot 3008. We had one as our last petrol car and the bootspace was very good.
One of the initiatives here in France is to provide small low-cost lease cars for key workers who need to travel. So a small car can be leased for about the equivalent of £60 pounds a month often with charging facilities at places of work.