Transgender women and an early state pension.

Galaxy

Who on earth would be so arrogant as to think their views are beyond reproach. Is that what you think about your own beliefs. Crikey.

This is a brilliant diversion tactic, it won't work but it did make me smile

If I believed my views beyond reproach, I would not answer all the questions put to me... That's the logical answer...

So why don't you answer?

Answer what. I have lost track.

I don't have a 'gender identity'. I know I'm a woman because my biology tells me so. I don't know what "feeling like a woman" is because I just feel like me, and that's unlikely to be the same as Doodledog or Galaxy or you. Some refer to women as "cis" and insist that's what I am. Are you going to tell them they're wrong and to stop doing it VS

Still waiting for the links, which upthread you said you always provide when asked.

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What are you on about now?

Are you going to answer my questions or just keep asking people to answer yours?

VioletSky

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And if only you'd stop it the discussion could move on.

Are we marking threads out of 10 now. Thats going to be entertaining.

VioletSky

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You certainly do all that VS.

I’d give you 0/10 but I’m not that rude.

VioletSky

Can people not answer direct questions?

Surely if your beliefs are beyond reproach those answers would be forthcoming

That from you VS is the funniest post tonight. Go back and check how many questions you have either not answered, pussyfooted round or answered the question you wish had been asked instead.

Oh and you questioning other posters’ beliefs?
Wow!
Take the beam out of your own eye before you try and find specks in the eyes of others.

The truth is that Transwomen are male.
All your whataboutery VS, can’t change that.
It doesn’t matter whether you’re claiming to be bi, lesbian, gay TiM or TiW, you can’t change sex.
Trans Women Are Transwomen.

MaizieD

It's a bit odd. It only applies to people born within a tiny window (7days) in one year. Are real cis women born within those dates entitled to get pension at 65?

It must affect a minute number of people.
(and yes, if it's different treatment from everyone else's, it's wrong)

They can probably identify as being born in that tiny window.

Well I was born earlier in that year (March) and I was able to claim my state pension at 63. My friend was born later in the year (June) was able to claim her pension at 64, so perhaps women born later that year (October/November) had to wait till they were 65. I don’t know, just wondering. So would men born in October or November in 1953 have to wait till they were 66? So that this tiny number of people, born in that particular week, be being given an advantage over other men by being brought into line with other women? But what if they were born the week after? I’m afraid I don’t understand the logistics of it at all.

It would be interesting to know exactly how many will qualify and if this is just the beginning. Will this 7 day window be extended.

I just wanted to add one thing quickly. In this thread someone mentioned trans women committing crimes against born women. I think you do occasionally get a man who isn't really transgender taking advantage of the ability to cross-dress and get into women's spaces. This is a very different type of person to the person born a boy who has always thought of themselves as a girl, and who is taking female hormones that suppress their male sex drive and has either had their genitals removed and reformed into female parts or is languishing on some huge long waiting list to have the operation. You'd be very unlikely to find a real transgender woman committing sex crimes. In fact they are more at risk of being the victims of violence from men.

The trouble is that the majority of transwomen have not surgically transitioned or taken female hormones - they have just declared themselves to be female and currently that is enough for them to be assumed to be female. Often this change of identity happens around the same time that a sex crime is committed, and the criminal is recorded as female, and is reported as such in the press, and referred to as female in court. Then the sex offender wants to be housed in a female prison, complete with functioning penis and male hormones, next to vulnerable women, many of whom have been assaulted by men.

Doodledog

The trouble is that the majority of transwomen have not surgically transitioned or taken female hormones - they have just declared themselves to be female and currently that is enough for them to be assumed to be female. Often this change of identity happens around the same time that a sex crime is committed, and the criminal is recorded as female, and is reported as such in the press, and referred to as female in court. Then the sex offender wants to be housed in a female prison, complete with functioning penis and male hormones, next to vulnerable women, many of whom have been assaulted by men.

Yes I believe that happens but I am not sure you're right about it being the majority. I think there may be a case for setting a dividing line - it's pretty much a common sense issue - but wherever that line is drawn I'd like to think that those on the right side of it were treated with the same care and respect as born women.

Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be an occasional event ReadyMeals.