Changing the clocks

It is tacked onto the other end of the day. There are still 24 hours in the day!!

Casdon

AGAA4

Bazza

Doesn’t anyone remember the experiment of not changing the clocks? It was from 1968 to 1971 I think, and I hated it, after spending my teenage years moaning about why it was necessary. Even if it gives me very slight jet lag for a couple of days I hope it never happens again.

That was when they kept it on BST. I remember pushing my baby in his pram in the dark at almost 10am. It wouldn't happen like that if they kept to GMT.

It would be dark if you were pushing your baby in his pram at 3pm instead though, wouldn’t it?

In some places at some parts of the year it is still half-dark at 10 am AND also the light starts to fade by 3 pm. The quality of the light is lower as you get further from the equator, anyway, as it has to struggle at a greater angle through more of the atmosphere.

There are more cases of depression at these latitudes (and the inhabitants tend to drink more alcohol, too)

In winter daylight hours are shorter as you get further North. The sun typically appears for up to two hours a day less in Scotland than in England.

On Quora, the question was asked "How many hours of daylight are there in the United Kingdom (England)?"
An answer was given by one Robert Upshall, who said ^"For a start England is not the same as the UK, especially in relation to this question. But the hours of daylight depend on two things, the time of year and the latitude. The further north the greater the difference between the summer solstice and the winter solstice. The most northerly part of the UK are the Shetland Islands which belong to Scotland and they are considerably nearer to the Arctic Circle than London, England and about 300 miles further North than Berwick on Tweed, the most northerly part of England.

On the Longest day, June 21st in Lerwick, Shetland, daylight lasts 18 hours and 55 minutes. On the same day in London it lasts 16 hours and 38 minutes.

On December 22nd it's 5hrs 49 minutes in Lerwick and 7hrs 49 minutes in London. So the difference is 4 hrs 17 minutes longer between summer and winter solstices in Lerwick than in London."

The amount of energy in the sun's rays also diminishes at latitudes further north and south compared to at the equator. The diagram shows the sun's rays all parallel as they hit the earth, but the surface of the globe slopes away, so the north (in our winter) or the south (in their winter) get less intense light and heat per hour on each square metre than the equator and tropics. In midwinter, the sun isn't even over the equator but over one of the tropics, so light and heat is more diminished.

I love BST although I hate losing that hour of sleep. It really does make sense to have daylight at the end of the day when more people are awake, rather than very early morning when more people are asleep. During the second world war double daylight saving (2 hours) was introduced for a time to further save energy and in winter it was set back to BST. If clocks weren't to be changed I'd rather stay on BST all year.

As for shops opening on Sunday, just because they're open doesn't mean you have to shop. I can never understand why it's only shops people want shut on Sundays, especially when the reason given is so shop workers can enjoy family time. Why don't those who work in entertainment venues for example deserve time off with their families? Why should restaurants, pubs, cinemas, museums etc open as none of them can be considered essential services. Members of my wider family include police, nurses, midwives, all of whom have had to work shifts over weekends including Sunday and they are essential services.

I remember that as a child living through World War II the clocks were put forward TWO hours, so it stayed light really late at night. I think this was to deter enemy flights by having as few hours of darkness as possible. It went back to one hour forward once the War was over.

I would like to see an end to Sunday shopping but would also like to stop messing around with the clocks!

I would love to stay in British summer time, my circadian rhythmn has never moved out of it and right now I am asleep by 10 and awake at 5. I value that this is possible for me, living alone and retired.

re sunday shopping, personally I would love the peace and calm that used to come on sundays when the shops were shut. However that is now a pipe dream, most working people, especially those with children, need that day to get a big weekly shop done and that has been facilitated by out of town shopping and big car parks

My small town has several old style small shops including artisan bakery. The coop supermarket is open and so are the two small `sell everything` shops. All the other shops are closed on sundays. Footfall on sundays is very low and most people keep to the old ways of no sunday shopping

About 70 countries around the world change their time
I always used to think we were the only ones. so if we didn’t it would be weird The main countries that don’t change their clocks are those around the equator ( for obvious reasons)
I d like summertime all the year around please ( especially the weather)

As for Sundays I always have found it a boring day even when I was a child we used to visit family on a Sunday and as an only child I d sit amongst the adults feeling bored So I like things being open and a bit of life around

Personally, I like it to be lighter first thing, even if it’s dark earlier at night.

I’m a lark, not an owl.

Give me one or the other, but not both!
I really am not aware of how many countries worldwide participate in daylight savings… but I can tell you this - it’s complete insanity to be changing clocks twice a year!

And countries are not all on the same page either. It’s truly unhealthful and crazy. Can’t the world be left alone to its natural state?

It all started with some crazy politicians.

BlueBelle

About 70 countries around the world change their time
I always used to think we were the only ones. so if we didn’t it would be weird The main countries that don’t change their clocks are those around the equator ( for obvious reasons)
I d like summertime all the year around please ( especially the weather)

As for Sundays I always have found it a boring day even when I was a child we used to visit family on a Sunday and as an only child I d sit amongst the adults feeling bored So I like things being open and a bit of life around

I could have written that last paragraph myself, almost word for word. It is exactly how I have always felt about Sundays.

Also the gnawing feeling of dread in my stomach that quiet Sundays used to give me - too much time to reflect on the fact that the next day was a Monday so meant back to school, or work when I was older.
I hated that Sunday feeling. 😔

Thete are some benefits........
The benefits of DST are decreased electricity consumption, a slight drop in the number of traffic accidents and crime. In addition to that, DST increases recreational time in the afternoons and boosts economy. The disadvantage are minor compared to the advantages. Some prefer not to change the clocks twice a year.3 Aug 2012

time-time.net › articles › pros...
Pros and Cons of Daylight Saving Time

It honestly doesn’t bother me - I must be one of the few. Mind you dh is the one who goes round the house altering anything with the time - amazing how many there are.

Before retiring I used to enjoy the extra hour in bed at the end of October!

NotSpaghetti

I would like to see an end to Sunday shopping but would also like to stop messing around with the clocks!

This….

I’m not that fussed really, but accept we now live in a 24/7 society and Sunday closing used to be very inconvenient for some people. I rarely shop on that day though as it’s quieter during the week and do most of my shopping online.
Before our blackout blind, I preferred the darker mornings as I’d be awake at first light, now it doesn’t bother me.

I love the summer nights when it’s still light after 10pm here, and also love it when the clocks go forward and the evenings are lighter. The winter is dark anyway, but staying on BST would at least, as Shandy3 says, save energy and give us fewer traffic accidents.

I do wonder how those who say they feel upset by time changes cope if they go abroad on holiday!

I wish the time wasn’t changed, takes me ages to adjust.

I don’t go abroad.