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Trees Are Conscious

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Caleo Tue 23-Apr-24 11:27:39

All things that strive to live are conscious.

Artificial intelligence things don't strive to live so those are not conscious.

yogitree Fri 26-Apr-24 13:25:29

I read a wonderful book about this and although it was fiction, much of the 'science' is believable (if you're me and a pagan).

www.amazon.com/Overstory-Novel-Richard-Powers/dp/039335668X?tag=gransnetforum-21

I love trees and plants and talk to all of mine, also welcoming new ones into the garden. I reckon my neighbours think I'm nuts but I don't care. To each their own!

pascal30 Fri 26-Apr-24 17:48:05

Maybe read The Hidden Life of Trees... which shows that when tress are harmed they send out electrical signals almost like wounded human tissue, they can react to drought by retaining water within the tree and they communicate with other trees deep underground.. I would say that is sentient

Callistemon21 Fri 26-Apr-24 19:52:29

Oreo

Callistemon21

I do talk to them sometimes . And to other plants.
And stroke their bark.

Did they consent to this stroking?😲

They don't like it when I get cross but they do buck up and grow.

Callistemon21 Fri 26-Apr-24 19:53:32

pascal30

Maybe read The Hidden Life of Trees... which shows that when tress are harmed they send out electrical signals almost like wounded human tissue, they can react to drought by retaining water within the tree and they communicate with other trees deep underground.. I would say that is sentient

It's a survival mechanism.

StephLP Sat 27-Apr-24 16:16:53

yogitree

I read a wonderful book about this and although it was fiction, much of the 'science' is believable (if you're me and a pagan).

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I love trees and plants and talk to all of mine, also welcoming new ones into the garden. I reckon my neighbours think I'm nuts but I don't care. To each their own!

yogitree - Overstory is a wondeful book. One of those stories that stays with you long after you finish reading. It took me a while to read and I had to read other books every few chapters as I got so involved and so upset by our treatment of trees/nature. This has made me decide to read it again - I'm sure I will learn more than before. A very important book.

Oldnproud Sat 27-Apr-24 20:19:59

Caleo

Mollygo wrote:

"I remember being told that grass being mown sends anguished messages."

I think this is held to be true by scientists. Would you say a feeling such as anguish is a sign of being alive not dead , and a natural being not a computer?

I can accept/believe that vegetation sends out signals in some circumstances, but really can't see how even scientists can prove that this is 'anguish' as such. What purpose would that even serve for something that is quite literally rooted to the spot?

Signals that might stimulate re-growth or the production of chemicals that could repel some of the creatures doing the damage would make sense, but anguish in the commonly-acccepted sense of the word when used in relation to animals? Personally, I doubt it.

Shandy3 Thu 02-May-24 12:06:21

Largest organism on our planet is 'mycorrhizal' which us like a highway, a telegraph line, that the trees communicate through and other fungi, etc grow from
Clever planet, it will do well for a time after our passing!

Juno56 Thu 02-May-24 12:10:02

That's fascinating Shandy3
Bump.

merlotgran Thu 02-May-24 12:17:46

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Cossy Thu 02-May-24 12:26:08

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