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Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

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Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 14:16:27

Seems a bit harsh? All that way too. He landed in the UK a few hours ago. Without Meghan and the children.

From the Telegraph just now:

“ The Duke of Sussex will not meet the King this week, the Telegraph can reveal.

Prince Harry, 39, landed in London on Tuesday morning and had made no secret of his hopes to see his father during his visit.

But a spokesperson for the Duke said: “In response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not The Duke will meet with his father while in the UK this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full programme.

“The Duke of course is understanding of his father’s diary of commitments and various other priorities and hopes to see him soon.”

I just think if the King doesn't ’find time’ to see his son then Harry might well just think ‘sod it’ next time/if he comes over.

I know Harry bad mouthed the family in his book ‘Spare’ but still …

What do you think?

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:30:52

Glorianny

The picture I was referring to is he one posted earlier on this thread of the green coat with the ochre hat.
It's nothing to do with purple or red really. Just a hat that doesn't go.
Sorry for presenting my musings. I should know they are always controversial.
The hat in the last picture looks good. And any colours can be put together. Oh and it isn't really to do with age now is it. It's about age in the future.

Oops I forgot the quote.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:34:22

Calendargirl

Well, I always felt sorry for the brother who had stayed at home working, then was sidelined when the prodigal returned.

I realise that makes me not very nice.

blush

Yes, so did I, even when I was a child.
It made me very indignant and quite confused that someone could behave so badly yet be so enthusiastically received back into the fold yet the dutiful stay at home son got overlooked.

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:36:54

Me too. I just didn't get it. And something similar eith David and Jonathan if I remember. I think therethe father disliked the one who was to become King though?

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:37:16

*with

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:43:30

Glorianny

As far as the RF is concerned wasn't Harry there as founder and patron of Invictus and not as a member of RF.
Apparently Birmingham want to have Invictus in 2027 wouldn't it have been nice to see a concerted effort of the RF and government to throw their support behind this?

Mrs Sunak somehow reminds me of that poem about wearing a purple coat and a red hat that doesn't go.

I think anyone and everyone who was important as far as the Ivictus Games are concerned was there at the service. The Spencers were probably invited as Harry's family support.

Having a member of the Royal Family there, other than Harry, would have altered the whole point of the service and put the
emphasis on the Royal Family instead of the Games and on its founder, Prince Harry.

The PM wasn't there but his wife was, Johnny Mercer, Mark Dyer and representatives from the sporting world too.
Perhaps Zara Tindall might have wanted to attend? but she had another engagement anyway.

I think the right note was struck.

Sparklefizz Fri 10-May-24 17:15:17

Callistemon21

Calendargirl

Well, I always felt sorry for the brother who had stayed at home working, then was sidelined when the prodigal returned.

I realise that makes me not very nice.

blush

Yes, so did I, even when I was a child.
It made me very indignant and quite confused that someone could behave so badly yet be so enthusiastically received back into the fold yet the dutiful stay at home son got overlooked.

Me too.

RosiesMaw Fri 10-May-24 17:40:59

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

Dickens Fri 10-May-24 17:56:08

RosiesMaw

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

grin grin

Squiffy Fri 10-May-24 17:59:20

Careful Maw! ⚡️⚡️⚡️😆

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 18:01:34

RosiesMaw

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

😁

It's an odd message, isn't it

The fatted calf for the prodigal son or daughter, beans on toast for the drudge.

eazybee Fri 10-May-24 18:25:36

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .

Iam64 Fri 10-May-24 19:48:36

I had a traditional C of E upbringing. The parables were important at Sunday school. The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 20:11:45

I had a C of E upbringing too and believe in forgiveness (although that does have a limit) but you can see who is obviously the favourite in the story of the Prodigal Son and it's not the dutiful child.

RosiesMaw Fri 10-May-24 20:14:29

eazybee

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .

Foolish “virgin”,?

Well that’s something at least! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 20:20:00

RosiesMaw

eazybee

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .

Foolish “virgin”,?

Well that’s something at least! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, yes.

Far better than foolishly losing your virginity when out partying 😂

Norah Fri 10-May-24 20:23:43

Iam64

I had a traditional C of E upbringing. The parables were important at Sunday school. The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

That is the message in our Church as well.

Perhaps the King and Harry may prayerfully work out a solution, if they choose.

fancythat Fri 10-May-24 20:30:55

Callistemon21

I had a C of E upbringing too and believe in forgiveness (although that does have a limit) but you can see who is obviously the favourite in the story of the Prodigal Son and it's not the dutiful child.

No.

The other son already had everything.
He never got lost.

The first son got lost and then was found[asked for forgiveness]

Then the father[d] said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and rejoice, because this brother of yours was dead and has come to life; he was lost and has been found

fancythat Fri 10-May-24 20:31:43

The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

Yes, this.

M0nica Fri 10-May-24 21:21:07

But the Prodigal son was repentant and accepted he hed 'sinned' and was content to take a lowly job on his father's farm.

He said 'I will set out and go back to my father and say to him 'Father I have sinned against heaven and against you'. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants' Only then did his father reach out to him.

Any sign that Prince Harry is really sorry about everything he has said and done? Really sorry, not just regretting what he did because it was a bad move and has done him no good, but truly sorry that he has so deeply hurt his father and brother and their spouses?

No, I have not seen any either.

Anniebach Fri 10-May-24 22:33:57

Strange reading, doesn’t relate to the reason for the service

Smileless2012 Fri 10-May-24 23:01:41

The prodigal son is mankind. The father is God. The parable is about God's love for us, His children. It isn't and was never intended to be about a father and his son and has no relevance to Charles and Harry.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 23:03:31

I do know.
It's a parable, a metaphor .............

maddyone Fri 10-May-24 23:22:17

I was brought up a Methodist and attended church and junior church every Sunday morning and Sunday School on Sunday afternoon. I fully understood the message of forgiveness in the parable but nonetheless I do struggle with the idea of forgiveness when someone truly wrongs you and shows no remorse. We are supposed to turn the other cheek but this is truly difficult when you feel the person who wronged you continues to wrong you and has no remorse. I’m thinking here in particular of my own sister sadly.

maddyone Fri 10-May-24 23:24:28

It seems to me that Harry and Meghan have shown no remorse for the hurt they have caused to Harry’s family, and also to Meghan’s family, and so these wronged family members probably feel that forgiveness is too difficult for them.

Anniebach Fri 10-May-24 23:32:24

More and more they do not seem very nice people