Giovanni Pernice what is going on?

surely if it was so bad for Michelle Visage, Faye Tozer ect ect they would have pulled out at the time where as they stayed at it!

Why do many wimen come forward long after

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Debbie McGee trained as a dancer and would have been well aware of the level of hard work that was going to be required, and surprise, surprise she has no complaints.

My daughter and I went to see Giovanni a few weeks ago. All his dancers had obviously worked incredibly hard to produce such a good show. His partner is an amazing dancer and they seemed to have a very good relationship. I imagine he had kept a pretty firm grip on the whole production but everyone seemed to be enjoying it.

Remember the fuss there was when Torville and Dean were training for their comeback years ago? Jayne was crying about something she couldn't get right and Chris yelled "Don't start fucking crying" Lots of shock, horror that he could swear at dear little Jayne but you don't get to be champions in anything by just saying "Never mind dear, it doesn't matter"

Big difference between winning an Olympic gold medal and
winning Strictly Come Dancing

I don’t watch Strictly so you ll probably think I have no right to have an opinion but I ve read this thread and just want to add something to the mix as an outsider
Lemsip with any form of abuse be it physical mental or verbal the abused will rarely leave at the time they will blame them selves for not doing it right, not being good enough, not working hard enough and they play on and on to try and do what is needed to make it right. Annebach the answer is exactly as above people rarely walk away until abuse has got well over the top, the women (some men too) would be blaming themselves be believing they were in the wrong especially if others were raving about how well their learning was going Its only after you are OUT of. the relationship (and a teacher/learner is a temporary relationship) that you will realise your treatment has been wrong

Suzikyoo your post is so shallow I won’t be bothered to answer it but it’s a real insult to those women

Totally agree, BlueBelle - like you, I've never seen Strictly, but there's an awful lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.

Gio has reportedly said he asked for videos to be taken during his training time with Amanda as he was concerned about her wellbeing (or similar). Apparently this was not granted/approved, which is a shame in view of the latest 'witch hunt'!

He was concerned but continued?

I am another one to agree with BlueBelle. This has been explained so many times, and yet the same old victim blaming continues.

This is a sad situation for everyone involved. Giovanni like any employee has the right to know what the actual accusations against him are and given the right of reply. At the moment none of us know the detail other than statements that these people felt bullied by him. That is far to general and needs to be much more specific. I hope for all concerned that this can be resolved as quickly as possible.

i just feel amanda abbington has it in for giovanni and is doing her best to ruin him

I don't see any victim blaming, we don't know if there are any victims do we.

There are proper avenues available for formal complaints which should be used. If this had been done there'd be no basis for speculation which if proved to be unfounded, may well have already had a negative affect on an innocent man's life.

Before anyone thinks that it’s a ‘Me Too’ situation, I have heard , on GB News that it is that he is a hard task master. He demands that his pupils work very hard and that’s something that some regard as abusive . I don’t watch Strictly but I know that to learn a skill like that takes hard work, dedication and a WILLINGNESS TO LEARN. If the female dance partners aren’t up to it , then don’t do it. Take up something easier … flower arranging, I hear, can be very immersive and won’t lead to PTSD … shouldn’t think so.

Summerfly

I’ll reserve judgment until I know all the facts.

Totally agree.

suzikyoo

As he is so good-looking and charming, I wonder whether these women are just embittered that they couldn't get their 'wicked way' with him? Hell hath no fury like .............

Absolutely disgusting post, what sort of mind do you have?

I think Faye Tozers and Giovannis dance to the Lonely Goatherd was an all time great - as was his wonderful performances with Rose. Debbie Magee knows how to work hard. She is not arrogant or self satisfied or unpleasant and wants to learn - very unlike those who are now complaining. I’m afraid - what unprofessional people they are. As another person wrote- you never see any of the athletes complaining because they are not pleased with themselves and know what hard training is all about.

Those complaining have been named ?

Rose Ayling Ellis won partnered with Giovanni. They were so inspiring together. She used to say he was like a frilly dragon lizard when criticising her! Maybe she and Debbie McGee were more prepared for hard physical work than some of the others?

The women are being judged, most unusual for GransNet

If you want to be excellent at anything you have to work really hard. Something that some of the celebs obviously weren't prepared to do.

For those who haven't watched it, Strictly is interesting for the way in which those who have had little experience of dance,actually learn and some of them get to be very good.
On the downside, I would prefer not to have all the sob stories. These seem to pervade many programmes, such as the Pottery Throw Down as well as Strictly.

Unfair, not everyone could run the 4 minute mile

^ I would prefer not to have all the sob stories.^

YES, so would I!
😩

I think we should wait to see if any charges are brought against him. If that doesn’t happen, then I think we probably can safely assume that the partners weren’t up to GP’s exacting standards and leave it at that. Television stars and celebrities are used to everyone fawning over them and thinking they’re wonderful, and it appears GP wasn’t impressed by their status and simply did what he was instructed to do, and that is get them up to standard.

Yes Maddy but whose standards? are they set by the BBC
or the individual professional dancers