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If you can manage financially - would you pay more tax, for better public services?

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Applegran Wed 29-May-24 14:11:35

I know tax is a challenging topic and both the main parties keep their heads down and say that they will not raise taxes, or will cut them further. I know few people love paying tax - but I have read more than one extremely rich person saying 'tax the rich more! We need better public services, roads, schools, environmental care.......and more!' This is a rich person asking to contribute more for the sake of the country they live in.
I am not extremely rich! but I am ok and grateful that I have a roof over my head, and do not worry about having enough food. And I would be glad to pay more tax. Tax which could give young children a better start in life, which could help people living in poverty, older people who are struggling to make ends meet, caring for the environment......we could all make a long list of things we'd like to see. And they (mostly) cost money - money from tax payers. So I'd vote to pay more tax. And also to go all out to get money from the rich tax evaders, who get away with paying too little tax, because they can. Do they ever think about the needs of others who have too little? Maybe they will........if we have any fabulously rich people on GN reading this!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Jun-24 11:04:03

My reason for not wishing to pay anymore tax is
1) I doubt very much it would be earmarked for NHS or social care

2) No prospective government has the cajuna’s to reform the above.

3) having worked for the NHS albeit briefly I have seen first hand the waste of taxpayers money.

Throwing money at a problem, any problem is never the solution. Why are public services not looking at reform and efficiency measures like the private sector ?

Nandalot Sun 02-Jun-24 10:02:37

Yes, I would be willing to see improved services. The 20% is quite low compared historically.

Maremia Sun 02-Jun-24 09:00:44

Yes, but I want more of an effort to get the big companies, Amazon and the like, to pay a fairer amount as well.

ElaineRI55 Sun 02-Jun-24 08:10:15

Scotland has been trying to do this for a while. We have 6 tax bands, not 3 as in England. There is a slightly lower "starter" rate for those just above the threshold. The rates for higher earners are slightly more, but in 3 steps. Of course it makes sense to have a progressive tax system where education and prescriptions are free and more support is given to help children in the poorest families. The higher tax rates, of course, only apply to the earnings above each threshold, after all.

Iam64 Sun 02-Jun-24 08:07:06

Good question GSM. I’m not sure but I’ve more faith thst the focus will be improving rather than destroying public services.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 02-Jun-24 07:59:22

So how would Starmer do any better with no increases in income tax, NI or corporation tax?

Katie590 Sun 02-Jun-24 07:51:18

Conjoured

Katie590 Sun 02-Jun-24 07:50:48

SueEH

I’d happily pay more tax and NI to fund better public services. Am I on my own here?

If we are going to improve services we are going to have to pay more, it’s not just going to be contoured out of thin air, those that have wealth or income are going to have to pay more.

Higher standards mean more cost

jocork Sun 02-Jun-24 00:06:47

GrannyGravy13

No I think 40% is more than enough after a lifetime of working, thank you.

I wish I earned enough that I had to pay 40% tax! I have 3 small private pensions as well as my state pension so I'm not on the breadline, but I live in a 100 year old house which needs lots of work doing which I can't possibly afford, and my mortgage stilll has over 9 years to run! My only way out of this dilemma is to downsize and move to a cheaper area and be mortgage free, not easy on my own at 70, though I hoe to acheive this!

My dad used to say the more tax he paid the happier he was as it meant he was earning more. I agree with that attitude. I would struggle to pay more tax at present, but if I had a bigger income I'd be hapy to. I worry for those who are existing on far less than me. I volunteer with my local food bank and the needs are increasing all the time!

Maggiemaybe Sat 01-Jun-24 23:53:35

SueEH

I’d happily pay more tax and NI to fund better public services. Am I on my own here?

No. Quite a few of us have said the same.

Happygirl79 Sat 01-Jun-24 22:06:24

fancythat

No.

I dont trust anyone to spend it on precisely what they say they will spend it on.

That is my problem with the issue too. I don't trust the government to use the money for public services in a responsible way

SueEH Sat 01-Jun-24 21:17:56

I’d happily pay more tax and NI to fund better public services. Am I on my own here?

rosie1959 Sat 01-Jun-24 20:52:06

It's a no from me already pay enough and paying more tax would probably not guarantee better services. Perhaps if public services were managed more like private companies there would be no need.

4allweknow Sat 01-Jun-24 20:02:52

If I could be assured it was used as it was supposed to be but I doubt if that would be the case. Scotland has higher tax levels than England and you never hear of all the wonderful things that are supposed to supplied with the extra levels.

PattyFingers Sat 01-Jun-24 19:29:35

Absolutely NOT

Allex50 Sat 01-Jun-24 18:01:01

The government does not know how to organise anything. It just lobs money at things. So, you get things like software systems that don't work and get either abandoned or even more money thrown there. Also like the fast railway through middle England. What a sorry story. No I cannot think of paying money to corporations that bleed us dry then laugh and run away. Why should we pay more tax when those up there spend a lot of time avoiding it.

yggdrasil Sat 01-Jun-24 17:27:18

yes of course

Joseann Sat 01-Jun-24 16:49:30

but the important bit is that the government was actively doing what was right and the best for everyone in the country.
That's the problem, neither government does here.

Babsbada Sat 01-Jun-24 16:35:19

Yes

loripol Sat 01-Jun-24 15:36:34

Yes, I'd happily pay more tax.

mumstheword86 Sat 01-Jun-24 15:15:30

No way pay more tax Others don’t pay into the system due to various reasons and have pets stating mental health they need them for comfort etc and get same benefits free prescriptions Food parcels etc etc Am sick of these people living nearby who I see smoking with tattoos and baskets full of unhealthy foods They are disgraceful object’s selfish and shouldn’t be pampered There saud my rant !!!!!

mumstheword86 Sat 01-Jun-24 15:09:49

Paid in all my life worked hard never taken advantage as some have done Can’t have unlimited children if you can’t afford them Not a god given right to have children and expect the state to help you out

JdotJ Sat 01-Jun-24 14:58:40

No thank you!

11unicorn Sat 01-Jun-24 14:28:05

I'm originally German and we paid a "solidarity tax" after the re-unification with East Germany to allow the government to invest in growth of economy, housing, roads, social care etc in the East.
We paid first 7.5% tax on our income, later 5.5%
I very happily paid this knowing it was used only to support the re-unification. I still think it was a well invested money and very much needed due to this not being anticipated and planned for.
As I say, I paid it with pleasure and said this always when it came up for discussion. Though there was a lot of resentment my people of it who could not see the need and just were griping over having to give up "their" money. And no, I was not well off at all but I could see the massive benefit of investing to bring East Germany up to standard for everyone there as well as bringing in industries to develop jobs etc. Of course there were a lot of failures as well and things could have been handled better - but the important bit is that the government was actively doing what was right and the best for everyone in the country.

SheWho Sat 01-Jun-24 14:12:13

Surely it would only be a small amount? I would pay a bit more tax. As a pensioner with no mortgage, I am no longer struggling financially. When I was working for the last few years, my income was so low. But now I don't have to count the pennies at all. If we need something, I just pay for it, so I would be happy for an increase in tax, but I do agree with the comments others have made about being unsure where the money would go. And yes, we have worked hard for years, paying for other people to have children, etc, etc., but we are in difficult times now. Difficult times require difficult decisions.