Sad news - It looks like Michael Moseley has been found

oodles

Agree, it would have been sensible to take a phone but according to news reports the guy who has gone missing elsewhere has 2 mobile phones with him.
It's possible that even has he had one with him therefore it might not have helped. I know that when I had a bad accident although I had a phone with me I couldn't access it as it was in a pocket and I couldn't get it open.
Believe it or not many years ago I got heatstroke in w Scotland, it was an extremely hot day and actually a similar landscape, a treeless rocky mountainside alongside the sea so the sun was reflected from both sides. I wasn't alone, it was very scary though. Although had I been alone I'd never have gone to that particular area

But a phone can be tracked so his location could have been discovered.

I had sunstroke as a teenager and it was horrendous.

Even in dying, this man has taught us things.
My condolences to his family.

Agree, it would have been sensible to take a phone but according to news reports the guy who has gone missing elsewhere has 2 mobile phones with him.
It's possible that even has he had one with him therefore it might not have helped. I know that when I had a bad accident although I had a phone with me I couldn't access it as it was in a pocket and I couldn't get it open.
Believe it or not many years ago I got heatstroke in w Scotland, it was an extremely hot day and actually a similar landscape, a treeless rocky mountainside alongside the sea so the sun was reflected from both sides. I wasn't alone, it was very scary though. Although had I been alone I'd never have gone to that particular area

Bumface

Did anybody watch Dr MM's last interview, on the BBC last night?

Thankyou for pointing that out Bumface.. what an extraordinary man he was... a great loss to us all..

Did anybody watch Dr MM's last interview, on the BBC last night?

I was in Egypt one exceptionally hot year in May. We went to visit the Valley of the Kings and the tour began at 6am. By 11 am it was approaching 40 degrees and far too hot to walk about.

Unfortunately it was obvious this would be the outcome He was quite definitly a risk taker and risk takers never see the danger to themselves they have done many things over the years and come to no harm and this was just another challenge
The authorities believe he was dead before the alarm was raised so maybe his heart just gave out after all that exertion in the massive heat and he would have just become unconscious and unable to fight the searing temperatures Chances are he knew nothing about it but the family left behind will probably always be saying to themselves why didn’t I stop him or make him take a phone

The only time I’ve ever seen vultures was at the end of our walk along the Samaria Gorge.

We holidayed in southern Crete in mid May for years. Young fit fifty year olds. We started hiked at 8am latest, finished by 11 am by which time it was too hot
That’s twenty years ago - it’d much hotter now

Iam64

There is an American aged late fifties missing on Naxos
The area of southern Crete I know well has issued notices saying no hikkng

A Weleh man went missing on Zakynthos five years ago. His body has never been found and the son said the search was not extensive, they stopped looking after five days.
The family brought in their own search team but no trace has ever been found.

There is an American aged late fifties missing on Naxos
The area of southern Crete I know well has issued notices saying no hikkng

I can remember being in Addo Elephant Park in South Africa and the temperature was mid 40's.. It was only for a short period of time but my whole body swelled up..

It just goes to show how debilitating excessive heat can be. I know people are fed up with our weather at the moment but it suits me. I find temperatures in the 30's and nudging 40 degrees pretty unbearable. After just a couple of days I feel really unwell. A tragic end for poor Michael Mosley and his family and friends and he was fit for his age. Just goes to show what extreme heat can do. RIP.

I think the biggest risk he took was not letting his wife and friends know what he was intending doing. Had he rung them from a cafe in Pedi to say he had arrived there and that he was walking on towards Ag. Marina the searches would have been made around that area much more quickly. It would have made no difference to the outcome, but Mrs Mosley would not have had 3 days of anxiety and the search parties would have focused on one area albeit still a difficult search. If only he had stayed in Pedi and spent a couple of hours there with a drink in some shade he could have met them from their water taxi and travelled back to Symi with them and be enjoying his holiday now. It is just so sad. If there is anything good to come out of this, it will be that tourists in hot countries will respect the hot sun and don't take risks. Also in cold countries. I was told off by a local for not wearing a warm hat in Finland. Not liking hats is not an excuse in those winter temperatures.

I agree, Sparklefizz. I always make a point of taking my phone with me when I'm out and about, whether it's walking the dog or going somewhere in the car, especially if I'm on my own. I may never look at it at all during those times, but it's there in case of emergencies.

There have been many comments by colleagues and also his wife saying that he was "adventurous" and "a risk-taker", and when he was still missing, I watched the brief film clip of him with his umbrella, and he was really striding purposefully which I posted about on here at the time.

He wasn't just strolling in the heat, and I do wonder if he was actually challenging himself because he had that sort of nature.

I have also read that he particularly recommended spending time in nature without a phone which is clearly bad advice in certain circumstances. I make sure I carry my phone, but it doesn't mean I look at it every 5 minutes. We're lucky enough to have this technology and I've found it very useful when, for example, my car broke down one time.

My DH was a builder and worked in Greece one summer. They started at 6am working til 11am during June, July and August - no one would be doing any strenuous activity outdoors between noon and 4pm.

I agree with Freshair in her earlier post. I did think it was strange for his poor wife to be comforted by the fact that he nearly made it.

Immediately struck me as an ego thing.

She probably wanted to find some comfort from somewhere too.

Who knows what any of us would say immediately, in such sad circumstances.

I agree with Freshair in her earlier post. I did think it was strange for his poor wife to be comforted by the fact that he nearly made it. We are all different in our reactions but I would personally find it unbearable to think that he was just a few minutes from safety. We will never know but maybe his wife and friends implored him not to walk back in such terrible heat but he decided to do a sort of experiment to assess the effects on the human body. What a tragedy, he will be sadly missed.

To the start of our walk, leaving at 7.30am. We’d aim to be back at our car or accommodation before 11.30am after which it was too hot to hike. We carried water, apples and oranges. I’m not criticising Dr M but it’s a mystery to me that a doctor ignored the obvious

In our fifties we’d start hiking in Greece by 8am, often driving to the st

It's extremely sad that a well respected doctor died slumped against a fence when he could have been relaxing on a beach.

Just moving about in those high temperatures is so tiring even for a very short walk.

It's hard to believe he got as far as he did.

Joseann

According to his OBE doctor friend, Tim Spector, you might be right Baggs.
It is the sort of thing that he would do. He wasn’t very aware of dangers and not frightened of putting himself at risk. You can see that from the things that he did on tv.
I've just read online.

If that is true, strange behaviour form someone who wanted to live a long life.

Sad, yes, but I’m relieved in a way that nothing could have been done to save him ie he wasn’t lying injured in a cave for a long time and that he probably lapsed into unconsciousness still with a hope that someone at the resort might find him. Having said that, for someone that had suffered from insomnia he would have been doing everything possible to stay awake. If only he’d had his phone. I assume they only chose that particular holiday destination ( other than having friends there) as a way of getting him to wind down because I bet he was a workaholic.

Blinko

Why would anyone go anywhere where the temperature could reach 40deg? No thanks!

They were staying with friends who have an apartment there, I think.