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Are you too scared to post what you really think?

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Whethertomorrow Wed 12-Jun-24 14:52:30

Just that basically.

There’s been a few times that I’ve wanted to post something that I don’t think is provoking or malicious or offensive, but I’m really too scared to do so, just in case someone takes offence.

I never really thought that I would be too scared to say what I thought but I think it is now the reality of life in these days of everyone taking offence at the slightest thing.

LucyAnna2 Fri 21-Jun-24 16:26:55

Not sure about a Queen Bee, but there are a couple of posters with strong, challenging views, who are omnipresent on many threads.

Doodledog Fri 21-Jun-24 17:03:29

LucyAnna2

Not sure about a Queen Bee, but there are a couple of posters with strong, challenging views, who are omnipresent on many threads.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

M0nica Fri 21-Jun-24 17:37:33

I am interested to hear your son's views on neuro divergency, Glorianny. In my family, 3 of us with ADHD plus 2 also being dyspraxic, communication has never been a problem.

It is more the general consciousness of being different but not quite knowing why, and in a school situation, how the school deal with it.

For me it is the coping with technology, specificlly mobile phones and trying to get people to understand it is not that I am an old woman who doesnt understand technology, but that i have specific problems.

I know this because when I wrote about it once before, someone with a young grandson with dyspraxia, wrote that he had the same problems and in the hair dressers yesterday I was talking to the shampooist, in her first job so 16+(1?), who said she was dyslexic and she had problems using her phone, not dissimilar to mine.

VioletSky Fri 21-Jun-24 18:18:12

Glorianny I think that is right

I was also glad to have some of my stims explained and my colleagues feel more able to remind me I am clicking my pen lid over and over in meetings or that it isn't always appropriate to burst into song that shows what you are thinking

Oreo Fri 21-Jun-24 18:36:51

M0nica

The other problem is that some people think anyone who disagrees with them is being personally nasty and abusive.

No, there’s a clear difference with a personal attack.

M0nica Fri 21-Jun-24 20:24:27

Oreo I agree, but some people take any criticism as a personal attack.

Oreo Fri 21-Jun-24 21:15:45

Ah, yeah see what you mean.Am sorry to hear you had problems recently on a thread.

Joseann Sat 22-Jun-24 07:59:45

Oreo

M0nica

The other problem is that some people think anyone who disagrees with them is being personally nasty and abusive.

No, there’s a clear difference with a personal attack.

So, here's one from this morning that is clearly a personal attack.

Nit picking German Shepherds mum (as always).

And, there is no need to report this as being taken from different thread because what I am showing is that such a comment appears to indicate that there will now automatically be criticism of the poster mentioned across ALL threads.

Iam64 Sat 22-Jun-24 08:25:32

I’m curious about the idea those famous some posters are scared to post, alongside criticisms of some other posters, k/a queen bees.
As Joseann’s post shows, GSM is often subject to personal attacks. I wonder if some believe she’s so robust that nothing touches her, whereas others are so fragile they take disagreement with ideas as personal attacks

PoorJenny Sat 22-Jun-24 08:30:04

MONICA. Perhaps it is the way that people reply to comments that is the problem, there is no reason to be nasty when replying to someones postings and it happens a lot on here. So if you cannot reply in a sociable manner then do not reply at all.

Iam64 Sat 22-Jun-24 08:33:32

People’s definition of ‘nasty’ can vary. At times it’s obvious- as with the dig at GSM referred to by Joseann earlier.

PoorJenny Sat 22-Jun-24 08:34:42

Iam64

GSM's replies to many posters are not nice. Before I joined I read many comments from different people on the forums and GSM seems to be the one that nit picks everything. If someone makes a mistake with the date or the month there is no need to say Err.... or correct them, just let it go. People are just posting their photos or talking about happy times and do not want to be pulled up on irrelevant things.

If this continues I will leave the forums as I did not join to read catty remarks to people who are enjoying posting things or wanting advice.

PoorJenny Sat 22-Jun-24 08:35:51

Also if the management want to kick me off the site then so be it, it will be no loss to me. There is enough anger in the world without reading it on a forum that is supposed to be supportive.

Iam64 Sat 22-Jun-24 08:39:05

Poor Jenny, I do wonder if your post about GSM breaches gransnet guidance. You are deliberately criticising one poster, on a personal level. Exactly the thing you’re complaining about. I won’t comment further but I feel it’s important to stress that GSM is extremely kind and helpful on many occasions.

Marydoll Sat 22-Jun-24 08:40:34

Iam64

People’s definition of ‘nasty’ can vary. At times it’s obvious- as with the dig at GSM referred to by Joseann earlier.

The dig at GSM does not sit well with me.
One cannot comment about nasty posters and then have a go at another poster. I thought that was not in the spirit of Gransnet.
Double standards.

M0nica Sat 22-Jun-24 08:44:30

PoorJenny

MONICA. Perhaps it is the way that people reply to comments that is the problem, there is no reason to be nasty when replying to someones postings and it happens a lot on here. So if you cannot reply in a sociable manner then do not reply at all.

Yes, but.... You can reply to someone perfectly courteously but have to say to them 'I disagree with you profoundly and this is why....... you do that and you are accused of being nasty.

Too many people pleasers, prefering to only agree or duck out. GN is not a forum for the massaging of egos and the rubber stamping of unacceptable behaviour, it is a discussion forum and despite what people keep saying I see very little of this nastiness that some people complain of.

All I see are people with clear views, that they express clearly and if they disagree with someone they say so. On the occasions someone descends to personal invective it becomes a shock.

I recently started a thread about being taken aback by how scruffy an estate agent who showed us around a house looked. Many people totally disagreed with me and said so clearly. and, in turn I argued my case, but throughout that thread and all the clear disagreement, there was only one reply that left me gobsmacked and that was one that indulged in personal invective, based on information obtained by trawling through my postings to a post and a thread months, if not a year old.

petra Sat 22-Jun-24 08:47:25

some posters 😉 are just too thick to see the irony 😂
You can’t educate spam.

Oreo Sat 22-Jun-24 08:53:03

PoorJenny a question for you, have you literally just joined this site?Like this morning?hmm

Marydoll Sat 22-Jun-24 08:55:37

First lesson, when joining GN. Tread carefully until you get the lie of the land. wink

Nicenanny3 Sat 22-Jun-24 08:59:58

Marydoll

First lesson, when joining GN. Tread carefully until you get the lie of the land. wink

Why in case you upset the nit pickers lol. GN is an open forum, open to everyone not just the sainted few who think they own it.

Casdon Sat 22-Jun-24 09:01:02

It’s a very fine line I think. Using this instance as an example, if you think somebody is nit picking on a thread, it’s not a personal insult to say so and give your reason for the comment. If you add ‘as always’ that implies that the person you are addressing is always nitpicking, and that is an unpleasant character trait, so it is an insult. That’s my interpretation anyway.

Nicenanny3 Sat 22-Jun-24 09:03:45

Also stop reporting other posters all the time, let posts stand, let people make up their own minds, we are adults not little kids who have to keep telling teacher.

Marydoll Sat 22-Jun-24 09:06:01

Nicenanny3

Marydoll

First lesson, when joining GN. Tread carefully until you get the lie of the land. wink

Why in case you upset the nit pickers lol. GN is an open forum, open to everyone not just the sainted few who think they own it.

You have totally misunderstood my post.
That is not what I meant.

Nicenanny3 Sat 22-Jun-24 09:10:23

09:06Marydoll

I know you were just trying to be helpful 👍 wasn't having a go at you💐

Marydoll Sat 22-Jun-24 09:15:58

Whew! Thank goodness for that! I am a gentle, fragile, little flower. wink