Angela Rayner ghastly trouser suit

What merlotgran says is very true.

Casdon

It’s entirely possible to critique somebody’s outfit without lapsing into personal insults about them. Some people have the manners to do that, and some don’t is what it boils down to.

Spot on, Casdon.

Germanshepherdsmum

A child is either legitimate or illegitimate, there’s no such thing as ‘so-called’ illegitimate.

Is there such a thing as illegitimate nowadays? A very large proportion of children are born "out of wedlock" but whose parents are in a long-term, long-lasting, committed relationahipe that, but for the marriage certificate, is marriage in all but name.

merlotgran

My mother always used to say, ‘You are what you wear and you’re treated accordingly.’

She never wavered from that even on the day DD and I struggled to get her into smart burgundy trousers and matching blouse on the day she had a stroke. She refused to travel in the ambulance in her nightclothes.

By the time she left hospital they were calling her the Duchess! 😂

I love this story merlotgran.

And what about kids in same sex "marriages"?

Callistemon213

^Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.^

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

Chocolatelovinggran

I hoped that we had moved on from judging people on their fashion. These women are not working for Vogue.

I don't think we are judging her. We are judging her choice of clothing. It's probably a very nice suit; it just doesn't fit her. Like it or not, appearances do matter and she looks ridiculous. Whether she is or not ridiculous remains to be seen.

Doodledog

Callistemon213

Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

They might if he's pretending to be a woman.

Doodledog 👏👏👏

I really hope Angela Rayner turns out to be the best deputy PM this country has had, and an excellent support to the Prime Minister...to wipe the upper class superiority, smugness and nasty smirks from some peoples narrow minds.

Doodledog

Callistemon213

Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

Most people have not done that, merely commented on the ill-fitting trousers, yet are labelled misogynistic.

Baggs

Doodledog

Callistemon213

Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

They might if he's pretending to be a woman.

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Possibly. But many men dressing 'as women' are heterosexual blokes who still want to have sex with women, so that's not cut and dried either. But there is enough unpleasantness on this thread without opening that can of worms.

She is a young woman dressing as young women prefer

Think AR should feel flattered to be called a ‘young woman’- she’s 44.

I would think of that as ‘middle aged’.

Callistemon213

Doodledog

Callistemon213

Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

Most people have not done that, merely commented on the ill-fitting trousers, yet are labelled misogynistic.

And that (IMO) is fair enough. Commenting on clothes is ok, but suggesting that someone is a tart because of what they wear is entirely different.

Marg75

GSM 'In the absence of the PM she is in charge of the country'. That thought fills me with horror, can you imagine her and her ghastly trouser suit amongst the world leaders?

I could not imagine Angela Merkle in that colour or suit

Well said Doodledog and Casdon 👏👏👏 couldn't agree more.

Think AR should feel flattered to be called a ‘young woman’- she’s 44.

I would think of that as ‘middle aged’.

😯

I felt young at 44. What can I say?

I could not imagine Angela Merkel in that colour or suit

Oh, I could. Well, the colour, certainly.

She always wore very bold colours as I recall.

Doodledog

Baggs

Doodledog

Callistemon213

Commenting on Sunak's trainers (or MF's donkey jacket, or BJ's tatty appearance) just doesn't compare in any way, and I can't believe people don't fully recognise that.

Yes it does, reading most comments on this and other threads.

Nobody would say that a man's clothes signified his sexual proclivities. That is the difference.

They might if he's pretending to be a woman.

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Possibly. But many men dressing 'as women' are heterosexual blokes who still want to have sex with women, so that's not cut and dried either. But there is enough unpleasantness on this thread without opening that can of worms.

You're right, doods, but I do get tired of disagreements of opinion being called "unpleasantness". Life would be very dull if everyone agreed on stuff. 🙂

halfpint1

Marg75

GSM 'In the absence of the PM she is in charge of the country'. That thought fills me with horror, can you imagine her and her ghastly trouser suit amongst the world leaders?

I could not imagine Angela Merkle in that colour or suit

To be fair, Angela Merkel was older and wore the same boring style of suit in different colours.

I’m afraid I have to agree with Callistemon. I think there have been some very nasty comments in the past about Johnson’s appearance, and it does compare with comments about Angela Rayner’s dress yesterday. There were also unkind comments about Michael Foot and the donkey jacket many years ago. I’ve also seen a comment about Margaret Thatcher’s clothes on this thread ((they weren’t to my taste but they were entirely suitable for the situation) and I’ve seen comments about the price of Sunak’s trainers, which in actual fact is nothing to do with anyone except himself.

Doodledog

I felt young at 44. What can I say?

So did I, but sadly I now realise probably no one else did.

Calendargirl

Doodledog

I felt young at 44. What can I say?

So did I, but sadly I now realise probably no one else did.

Cherie Blair had another baby when she was a year older.