Angela Rayner ghastly trouser suit

Callistemon @ 7.51. It was me who mentioned the "sisterhood" and that men were fair game. It was very tongue in cheek. A joke in fact but humour is as rare as hen's teeth on this thread.
I don't believe either men or women should be criticised for what they wear.

Quote M0nica Sat 06-Jul-24 09:11:30
Anniebach what a peculiar comment, I have never read anywhere any comments pejorative or otherwise on Angela Rayner's private life except over her house where it was a public issue as well.

This may sound rude, but as we used to say 'wash your mind and hands,(in this case) in soap and water.

Yes very rude.

Doodledog

There is a difference between saying someone looks a state (as BJ often did) and calling a woman a tart and her child ‘illegitimate’ and suggesting that anyone who objects to such sexism and snobbishness has lower standards than yourself. A huge difference.

This! A massive difference. I wasn’t particularly fussed about her outfit but that was only looking at it with my own personal taste. She can wear what she wants. Perhaps this country would be better off if we didn’t judge on looks and dress but on actions and outcomes.

Labour got in and the Conservatives are out. Perhaps consider emulating Sunak’s very gracious departure speech.

I’m off. Some of the posts on this thread rank amongst some of the worst I have read on GN.

Anniebach

She had a baby when she was 16 so you judge her

I judge her for many things. That is just one of them.

Yes Maddy , the post which I criticise speaks of dislike of the
trouser suit and dismisses the wearer as ‘a tart’

Bumface

Why was Mrs Sunak dressed as a zebra? Does any of this really matter?

I was joking, trying to send up some of the attitudes expressed on this rather toxic chat topic. I am profoundly sorry if I offended anybody.

It all reminds me of my late MIL who couldn't walk down the street without shouting out to some innocent victim. "What is she wearing? Oo do she think she is?" Needless to say I avoided walking down the street with her as far as possible.

Anniebach what a peculiar comment, I have never read anywhere any comments pejorative or otherwise on Angela Rayner's private life except over her house where it was a public issue as well.

This may sound rude, but as we used to say 'wash your mind and hands,(in this case) in soap and water.

But you were asking me about morals Annie, but I have made no comment about the morals of any politician on this thread, nor on other threads actually.

Maddy. Rayner’s morals are judged , ‘a tart’

Annie
I have made no comment nor judgment about Angela Rayner having a baby at sixteen.

I haven't waded through all of these posts but for the record in case it hasn't been mentioned, Angela Rayner was wearing a Me+Em British designed wide legged suit in 'flowy' material that was caught by the wind. Big ✔️ for show casing British design & current fashion. Given her background another big ✔️ for clawing her way up to being deputy PM. That can't have been an easy journey. So good to see so many (comparatively) women striding down Downing St into Cabinet jobs. Don't care what they were wearing as long as they are the right people for their posts.

Anniebach

Maddyone you find criticism of morals acceptable?

I wasn’t talking about morals Annie, I was talking about dress sense. I said I never criticised Johnson’s dress sense, nor the price of Sunak’s trainers, but others did.
It’s hypocrisy.

She had a baby when she was 16 so you judge her

Thank goodness my iPad battery died and I went to bed. Any criticism of a woman and her clothes is seen as misogyny. A crime against the sisterhood (of which I have never been a member but they’re out in force on GN).

Those who made very nasty comments to me may care to know that I thought Rachel Reeves was very well dressed in a well fitting dark suit and that Lady Starmer looked beautiful.

My view of AR’s outfit, her language and morals remains unchanged. It’s good to stand out for the right reasons, not because you’re dressed like a clown when going to No 10 to be appointed Deputy PM.

No I don't agree with you Oreo. Yes posters have a right to their opinion but there is simply no need to frame this opinion in
such derogatory, bitter language.

Crossstitchfan

I see you are being as rude and unpleasant as ever. Can’t you ever be nice?

You’ve obviously missed the numerous posts where GSM has given free professional advice
Wished posters well who have found themselves in difficult health / financial situations.

Anniebach

Maddyone you find criticism of morals acceptable?

Neither I or other posters on this page are saying anything about morals.It’s purely about dress sense to me and most others.

Maddyone you find criticism of morals acceptable?

When I think of the comments about Boris Johnson’s clothing and compare with the comments about Angela Rayner’s clothing, I see outright prejudice according to political beliefs. I never criticised Johnson’s appearance despite the unpleasant comments frequently on here, and I’m not going to say anything about Angela Rayner’s dress sense either.
I also remember criticism of Rishi Sunak’s suits. Unpleasant comments because they were from Saville Row (if they actually were) unpleasantness about his trousers being too short, and about the price of his trainers! I never commented. It was allowed apparently because he was a Conservative.

No one commenting on the sheer volume of women walking the 'catwalk' into No10 yesterday?

One hundred years after all women were given the vote and we think it is a fashion parade.

Maybe Rayner was saying, 'I don't give a s...t what you think of me, I'm DPM so there,' and I for one don't blame her.

It seems she has become the new Dianne Abbott- everyone wants to take a cheap shot at her. Shameful.

Am I right or am I right? 😄

Yes, you're right Oreo 😁
As I pointed out above, St Angela can do no wrong.
Let's hope she lives up to that promise.

Oreo

I think what is really happening here is that some posters feel protective about ‘our Angela’ as she had a difficult life as a teenager and after waiting a long time Labour are finally in power with AR in a powerful Cabinet position.Any criticism of her clothing is therefore taken as a criticism of her and her origins and against Labour generally.
Am I right or am I right?😄
Well, this Labour voter, very happy about the result yesterday, can still distinguish between all that and having a view on the trouser suit she chose to wear.I didn’t like it.

You’re right Oreo.

I am not a fan of AR, the “Tory scum” remark showed her true colours.

However, she has done incredibly well against the odds, she didn’t come from a background where couture was important and certainly never had elocution lessons but she is who she is, she does not pretend to be anything she isn’t and I applaud that.

Margeret Thatcher had voice training and dressed for the role, she never came across as sincere.

I don’t give a tinkers toss what the cabinet wear just as long as they do a good job.
I have never voted Labour in my life and with the exception of the late John Smith have never respected or trusted any Labour leader.

Let us just hope and pray KS and his party will get us back on track.

Oreo Sat 06-Jul-24 08:12:19
I think what is really happening here is that some posters feel protective about ‘our Angela’ as she had a difficult life as a teenager and after waiting a long time Labour are finally in power with AR in a powerful Cabinet position.Any criticism of her clothing is therefore taken as a criticism of her and her origins and against Labour generally.
Am I right or am I right?😄
Well, this Labour voter, very happy about the result yesterday, can still distinguish between all that and having a view on the trouser suit she chose to wear.I didn’t like it.

No you are not right, disliking a trouser suite is not the same as
describing the wearer as ‘a tart’ ,, you find this acceptable I do not.

Grandmabatty

I would rather judge someone by their ability to do the job, than what they wore. There are some truly horrible remarks on this thread.

I agree. I have never seen so much bitchiness on a thread in GN. I am totally shocked!