Awful tragedy

Why on earth are some young women drawn to these awful men from violent families?

Kyle Clifford's brother Bradley is a murderer too.

It makes you wonder what went on in their childhood and what their parents were like.

They are obviously both very dangerous and need to be locked away.

We should imprison men who kill especially family destroyers. We save rehabilitation programmes for people where our efforts might be effective

eazybee

^Am I being blind but there seems to have been an enormous rise in the number of men pursuing and killing ex girl friends or partners.^

Yes I agree; violence is meted out to ex- girlfriends, partners and wives, sometimes relatives as a punishment.
Very seriously, how do you rehabilitate such men?

Very seriously, how do you rehabilitate such men?

Not sure you can.

Avoiding speculation on this particular incident - if you think about it, men who are so 'traumatised' by rejection that they will slaughter their partner (and more frequently now it seems, other members of the family), there is obviously some deep-seated terrible 'inadequacy' which they cannot cope with - how in God's name do you rehabilitate that?

I thought he had dead eyes Bluebelle but what we know now is probably clouding my judgement.

Urmstongran

Callistemon213

Urmstongran

He’s been caught. Good.
Hiding in a cemetery.

Oh thank goodness.

I was hoping he'd killed himself.

I wasn’t.
Too quick and I’m sure that Mr. Hunt and his remaining daughter (so sad to think of them tonight) would want to hear the ‘why’ of it all. Then deprive him of his liberty for LIFE.

Yes, you're right of course.

I do remember when Fred West committed suicide and there was a feeling he had evaded justice.

I don’t think the numbers are more just there is a lot more talk about it a lot more in the news a lot more details and the manner of killing is different never heard of crossbows till recently
There something badly wrong in a family if two sons are murderers he looks very clean cut and wholesome in his photograph
Sounds as if tried to commit suicide but police thankfully got there first
I ve never heard of John Hunt but what a terrible terrible situation to lose your wife and daughters at one go absolutely horrific

He's been caught, thank goodness. Watching his escape , a lady was walking on the opposite side of the road as he got into his car. Thank goodness he drove off. CCTV.

Urmstongran

He’s ex-army and security. A dangerous man.
Frightening if you live round there I imagine till he’s caught.

Any man with a crossbow,hell bent on revenge, is very dangerous . You don't need training to fire one.

Yes his brother killed a person who had damaged his car!!! Given 23yr jail term in 2017. Im glad he didnt manage to kill himself - i hope and trust he will be jailed for entire life.

Callistemon213

Urmstongran

He’s been caught. Good.
Hiding in a cemetery.

Oh thank goodness.

I was hoping he'd killed himself.

I wasn’t.
Too quick and I’m sure that Mr. Hunt and his remaining daughter (so sad to think of them tonight) would want to hear the ‘why’ of it all. Then deprive him of his liberty for LIFE.

He’s injured and not by police so no doubt self inflicted as is so often the case.

I can’t stop thinking about those poor women.

His brother is in prison for murder too? I wonder, nature or nuture there, it can't be coincidence can it? So tragic.

Galaxy

I think men killing their female partners has been consistent for a number of years at 2 a week I think.
Vile dangerous man.
Those poor women.

Galaxy I was thinking specifically of men pursuing ex-partners, rather than killing within a relationship. I agree that has been there since time began.

There is another discussion under way about reducing the prison population, and I would hope that those committing these so-called crimes of passion would never be released.

Urmstongran

He’s been caught. Good.
Hiding in a cemetery.

Oh thank goodness.

I was hoping he'd killed himself.

Very seriously, how do you rehabilitate such men?

I'm not sure they can ever be rehabilitated although they could be clever and manipulative enough to fool a Psrole Board,

Am I being blind but there seems to have been an enormous rise in the number of men pursuing and killing ex girl friends or partners.

Yes I agree; violence is meted out to ex- girlfriends, partners and wives, sometimes relatives as a punishment.
Very seriously, how do you rehabilitate such men?

What a terrible, awful tragedy. This is the sort of crime that being jailed for life is a just sentence and life ought to mean life.

Really, really terrible. There seem to be far too many who can't come to terms with a relationship that's run its course and then resort to the most vindictive of terror tactics.

So sorry for the women, their lives cut short by a monster and for the father and sister who must be traumatised and grief stricken.

Awful beyond words.

Just a horrific situation. That poor man. That poor remaining sister.

Glad he has been caught. Injured but not by the police and receiving treatment. What a waste of three lives and for what purpose.

That’s a relief urmston.
Yes Galaxy, two women each week, the greatest danger period is when the woman tries to end the relationship.
Jess Phillips will add the names of these latest nurders to the list she reads in Parliament.
I hope Starmer keeps the focus on protecting women and childrenn

He’s been caught. Good.
Hiding in a cemetery.