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Downton Abbey electrical curling tongs.

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MatildaMay Tue 16-Jul-24 17:33:54

I am just watching the Downtown Abbey series for the second time.

I was amazed to see a maid curling Lady Mary's hair with an electric curling tong which was not invented until 1959.

When I first saw the episode I thought where on earth was this curling tong when I was a teenager in the late 50's, I had to use rollers.

I know they used curling tongs which were heated on the fire like flat irons used to be but showing an electric curling tong in the Downtown Abbey series supposedly in 1919 is a gross error.

Cossy Wed 17-Jul-24 19:35:35

Farmor15

GSM - how do you know how Julian Fellowes portrays life in a "big house"? At 18-50 yesterday you said you had never watched Downton Abbey.

Maybe GSM has read some of his books? Maybe, like most of us, she has a good grasp of history!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 18-Jul-24 08:29:38

I do indeed have a good grasp of history and I am sufficiently aware to know that Downton Abbey was filmed in various large houses including Highclere Castle. No, I haven’t read the books, nor have I ever watched the programme.

I don’t have to go to the Sahara to know it’s a desert.

Gingster Thu 18-Jul-24 08:44:21

Ooo aren’t you the observant ones! 😳

Daddima Thu 18-Jul-24 09:15:52

Jings, a whiff of the playground about this!

Here’s an idea, why not comment on the topic (electric tongs in Downton Abbey, for example) without feeling the need to comment on the characteristics of the poster?

Who knows, it might catch on.

Buttonjugs Sat 20-Jul-24 11:13:21

I don’t like inconsistencies in period drama either. My pet hate is the style of curls in some of them, obviously created with hair straighteners or large barrelled tongs or wands. Also some of the prams in Call The Midwife, I used to be obsessed with prams as a child in the late sixties and early seventies so I know some of them didn’t exist in the time period of the show.

Dillonsgranma Sat 20-Jul-24 11:22:10

Unbelievable that certain people haven’t watched downton abbey. It was wonderful and won awards. How small minded not to watch their series “on principle “

JdotJ Sat 20-Jul-24 11:38:07

My late mum, bless her, was a great one for pointing out inconsistencies in period dramas.
As an evacuee in WWII she was very scathing with any family war time mistakes on TV.
Her pet peeve was war time dramas showing children wearing white socks, which, she said, never would have happened , grey or navy socks, never white.
No doubt someone will post that my mum was wrong but would be nice to have anothers opinion.

Patsy70 Sat 20-Jul-24 11:38:21

Some of these comments are so very childish, triggered by someone who always chooses to be controversial. 🤷🏻‍♀️
I’m a fan of the fictitious ‘Downton Abbey’ too, although don’t recall the curling tongs episode. Two of my very trendy granddaughters use curling tongs sometimes, another one has beautiful, naturally curly hair, so doesn’t need them. 😊

Dillonsgranma Sat 20-Jul-24 11:51:54

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missdeke Sat 20-Jul-24 12:58:48

Germanshepherdsmum

Thank goodness I have never watched Downtown Abbey!

I have watched the whole series and films at least 3 times. Each to their own eh?

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jul-24 13:05:42

I thought we'd established that there were (at least some) electric curling tongs in this period?

RosiesMaw2 Sat 20-Jul-24 13:05:51

Wow, Dillonsgran that’s a sweeping and IMO entirely unjustifiable comment. Pretty toxic too.
Come the Revolution and you are elected thread monitor you may make such decisions if you please but many of us not only appreciate GSM’’s brand of common sense but have had reason to be grateful for her legal expertise.
Not sure what you find to object to in her door however? 🚪

RosiesMaw2 Sat 20-Jul-24 13:08:31

Dillonsgranma

Unbelievable that certain people haven’t watched downton abbey. It was wonderful and won awards. How small minded not to watch their series “on principle “

Unbelievable?
Surely TV is a matter of choice - or is there some new diktat that decrees programmes you find wonderful and which have won awards are compulsory?

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jul-24 13:09:10

Re white socks in WW11
someone called Christopher Wagner had white socks aged about 10 as he was "mortified".
histclo.com/country/eng/co-eng-19402war.html

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jul-24 13:16:26

Actually here are photos taken during that period and now at the ImperialWar Museum JdotJ - some definitely have "white-looking" socks

www.iwm.org.uk/history/growing-up-in-the-second-world-war

Obviously may not have been completely white as not colour photos.

Interesting though.

nanaK54 Sat 20-Jul-24 13:21:16

Dillonsgranma

Unbelievable that certain people haven’t watched downton abbey. It was wonderful and won awards. How small minded not to watch their series “on principle “

Crikey!
I have never watched Downton Abbey, no big reason and I am certainly not 'small minded' grin

Amalegra Sat 20-Jul-24 13:50:25

I have been watching the re runs of ‘Upstairs Downstairs’ and am really enjoying it again! Not quite as beautifully dressed as Downton (and no superstars like Maggie Smith!) but the scripts are so much better! I always thought that Downton was written from too much of a modern perspective and failed to show the often miserable lives of the downstairs staff. Hugh Bonneville was brilliant, though; a fine actor who is as at home playing comedy as drama.

JdotJ Sat 20-Jul-24 14:00:52

Thank you re the white socks replies.

The curling tongs - who knows, or cares by now 🤔

BlueBelle Sat 20-Jul-24 14:05:39

Wow is this a competition to see ‘How many posts you can get taken down’ We have a winner 🏆

I m now getting behind the sofa I ve never watched Downton Abbey or Game of thrones or Dr Who or The Crown
none appeal to me

grandtanteJE65 Sat 20-Jul-24 15:00:26

Even if the Americans did have electric curling tongs in the early 20th century, they probably had not made their way to England!

Even as late as my childhood (1950s) voltage varied from one country to another, which made using electic appliances made abroad either difficult or dangerous.

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jul-24 16:36:15

Just found a terrific paper about curling irons and Downton:

"Curling Irons and the Role of the New Woman"
Dana Hilton (Spring 2014)

www.k-state.edu/english/westmank/downton/curlingiron.hilton.html#:~:text=It%20was%20primarily%20warmed%20over,plated%20handles%20and%20floral%20embellishments.

BlueBelle Sat 20-Jul-24 18:15:39

Well we never even had a hair dryer during my childhood my Mum or nan used to dry my hair sitting in front of the open door of the gas oven (turned on of course)

welbeck Sat 20-Jul-24 18:23:02

and lit, i hope !

win Sat 20-Jul-24 20:37:04

Come this thread for goodness sake before it starts up again.

ixion Sat 20-Jul-24 20:53:39

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