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Torn between animal welfare and loyalty to a dear friend

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Bluesmum Sun 11-Aug-24 15:17:34

My oldest friend, who lives 150 miles away, is now 95, very immobile, going blind with macular disease and in denial! She struggles to cope with no outside help. Her home is absolutely filthy and the stench is sickening. I visited her recently and was appalled at her living conditions. Her only relatives, a neice and nephew from different sides of the family, are extremely concerned for her welfare, but she refuses all offers of help, to the point of being very rude and offensive. We are now dealing with this through local Social Services, although so far she is reluctant to co-operate as she really cannot accept the need, but with our joint efforts we are hopeful of progress. The major problem I have is she has had indoor cats all her life. Her last pet died last May and she is absolutely bereft, lonely, sad and desperate for another pet. Her last two have come from a local rescue centre, where she is well known (she regularly sends them very generous donations!); However because , she can no longer clean the litter trays, her last pet took to poo- ing and peeing where it pleased , hence the dreadful smell now. In addition, because she does not have a vacuum cleaner that works properly, there was loose cat litter everywhere, on the carpets from the front door all through the house, and all over her kitchen worktops!!! It is four months since her last cat died and her lounge carpet is still damp with urine! I feel it would be extremely unfair to introduce another cat into this environment and I have told her so, but she is insistent on pursuing her quest for another feline companion! Should I contact the rescue centre concerned and make them aware of the conditions? As she has had her last two pets from them, they do not conduct their usual inspection because, as I said earlier, she is well known to them over the years! What would you do under these circumstances? What is most important, animal welfare or my friends selfish desire for feline companionship?

Smileless2012 Sun 11-Aug-24 15:22:27

A difficult situation to be in Bluesmum but for me the welfare of any future cat must take priority.

TwiceAsNice Sun 11-Aug-24 15:24:07

Absolutely the cats welfare is paramount she is unable to look after an animal and their life with her would be cruel. Sorry if it sounds harsh but she won’t live much longer then the cat will have to be rehomed again which is unfair . You MUST let the rescue centre know not to let her adopt another cat and I think you know this.

MissInterpreted Sun 11-Aug-24 15:30:28

I would definitely contact the rescue centre and let them know of your concerns. Your friend is being selfish here - as someone else says, if she dies, the cat will have to be rehomed once again, and it certainly wouldn't be fair on any animal to be kept in those kind of conditions. The welfare of any cat she might acquire must be the top priority here.

MissAdventure Sun 11-Aug-24 15:37:13

I'm surprised a rescue centre would rehome a cat into that environment.

Why not see if your friend would settle for an interactive type cat.
They purr, and are good for a cuddle, but without all the other issues.

Oldbat1 Sun 11-Aug-24 15:43:18

You know yourself you must contact the rescue centre. Having said that how would your friend get said cat? Is your friend mobile? Is she herself clean? Any rescue centre worth their salt would pick up on her frailty not to mention her personal hygiene. I know any rescue near to me have stringent rehoming regulations.

Smileless2012 Sun 11-Aug-24 16:17:37

Bluesmum has said because her friend is well known to the rescue centre and makes generous donations they don't carry out their usual inspection.

Bluesmum Sun 11-Aug-24 16:18:53

MissAdventure

I'm surprised a rescue centre would rehome a cat into that environment.

Why not see if your friend would settle for an interactive type cat.
They purr, and are good for a cuddle, but without all the other issues.

I am almost certain they wouldn’t, but they will not be aware of the circumstances unless I tell them!
Thank you for your positive reactions, in my friends defence, she has stipulated she only wants an elderly cat, one that is not likely to outlive her, and this seems to be the the cause of the delay. They have offered young cats and kittens but she is at least being sensible so far in that regard, but I think she is getting desperate now! I will be contacting them in the morning, thank all again

FindingNemo15 Sun 11-Aug-24 16:26:35

I help at a local animal rescue and they always do a home check before rehoming.

Your friend does not need to know who had spoken to the rescue home, but you should definitely tell them about her situation. It is not fair on any animal and taking into account her age she needs to have made arrangements for any cat for when she dies.

Gwyllt Sun 11-Aug-24 17:02:14

I thought rescue centres considered the age of the person trying to rehome a cat. A friend who is a very fit 70 year old was rejected for being too old

Cossy Sun 11-Aug-24 17:05:03

I would worry about your friend rehousing a cat now, BUT I would be much more worried about your friend, it sounds as if she’s not coping well at all and needs help. If she’s in denial and angry it could be she’s unable to accept her situation or even the beginnings of dementia. Please do contact the cat rescue, and give some real thought about how to help her too.

Nannarose Sun 11-Aug-24 17:08:25

Rescue Centres can be variable, so the rules that one applies may not be relevant to all.
However, most are used to this kind of situation, and I would contact them. Don't give your name at first, until you get the measure of the person you are speaking to, but in my experience, they will be grateful to you, and will be tactful.
They may well say that they don't have any suitable pet at present (true!) - that has happened to a neighbour of mine.
And I am so sorry you are having to do this, I know how hard it can be when someone you care for so deeply is just not functioning properly.

RosiesMaw2 Sun 11-Aug-24 17:08:26

It sounds like a question of both your friend’s welfare, if she is living in such insanitary conditions as well as that of a potential,pet.
TBH she does not sound as if she is capable of looking after herself, let alone a pet.
I think you need to speak to someone to get her the help she needs.

Norah Sun 11-Aug-24 17:19:38

Daughter4 has this and it works brilliantly.

www.elspet.co.uk/products/self-cleaning-cat-litter-box-toilet

Perhaps the niece and or nephew could be convinced to help every 2 weekly, with this if your friend insists on another cat. After Wich the house/furniture could be well cleaned. Though I hope she acquires no more cats.

Bluesmum Sun 11-Aug-24 17:26:41

RosiesMaw2

It sounds like a question of both your friend’s welfare, if she is living in such insanitary conditions as well as that of a potential,pet.
TBH she does not sound as if she is capable of looking after herself, let alone a pet.
I think you need to speak to someone to get her the help she needs.

As I said in my original post, have already contacted her local council and expressed my concern regarding her total refusal to accept her inability to keep her home fit for human habitation and Social Services are now aware and going to do an assessment of her needs.. Unfortunately, they, like most local authorities, have too little resources and too much demand, but following my urgent phone call and online application for help on her behalf , I am expecting to hear from them in the next few days. If I don’t, I will be contacting them again, but getting her to co-operate is another major problem. . If she continues to refuse help, can it be forced on her if her situation is considered to be a risk to her health and welfare?

MissAdventure Sun 11-Aug-24 17:29:19

Inky if she is deemed as not having capacity to make her own decisions.

Hopefully it won't come to that, though.

MissAdventure Sun 11-Aug-24 17:29:57

Only. Not inky!! smile

NotSpaghetti Sun 11-Aug-24 17:33:46

Can you ask if they do home visits?

I think most rescue centres will do that now so you may be worried about nothing?

Give them a ring perhaps.

NotSpaghetti Sun 11-Aug-24 17:37:14

I did see that you think they won't by the way.
I would check though as several years have gone by since the last cat.

MissAdventure Sun 11-Aug-24 17:37:23

Could she afford a regular cleaner?
Perhaps with a good one-off blitz, then a cleaner every couple of days, it may be manageable for her to stay independent.

poppysmum Sun 11-Aug-24 17:44:30

any good rescue would not rehome to someone in these circumstances and probably age. it is clear she is struggling I hope Social Services will step in and help. As for carpets etc ripping them up and replacing would be daft but if you get a professional carpet cleaner in they have stronger cleaners and should be able to restore them to some better condition. Some cleaner firms can offer one off cleans for end of tenancies etc which should be a great help

Grantanow Sun 11-Aug-24 18:09:33

She needs help.

Shelflife Sun 11-Aug-24 18:18:13

Most definitely do all you can to prevent your friend having another cat. Please let us know how you get on.

Bluesmum Sun 11-Aug-24 18:43:00

I should say that I have Power of Attorney jointly with her neice, for both Health and Welfare, and Finance. She made these LPA’s a good few years ago now and at the time I investigated my responsibilities etc in this role but I have to admit that has all faded into the mists of time now and I need to refresh myself on how and when this can be activated. Although a normal person would think she is mad to live in squalor, given her very secure financial situation, in all other respects her mind is as sharp as a razor, very astute mentally!

MissAdventure Sun 11-Aug-24 19:06:22

Age UK may be able to give you some up to date advice, I'd think.

Hopefully a sensible social worker would too.