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fionamay10 Mon 19-Aug-24 11:15:34

I'm strugglig with the death of my daughter in April this year.

Her husband left with with 2 young kids to bring up one just stsrting school and then other 7. We help loads especially during the hols as we have them over night and weekends mainly to give him a break

Just found out he is seeing someone just weeks after my daughter died.
He has kept all this quiet and only told us the other day as he was seen with her .

He wants to come over and explain to us he is now in a relationship.

We are struggling with this.

We are happy for him but find this disrespectfull. So soon ,- weeks after her death.

What should we say to him.....

Calendargirl Mon 19-Aug-24 13:36:52

I am very sorry to hear about your daughter.

It does seem very quick, I agree, but men in particular often seem to move on swiftly.

The trouble is, he might get another wife, but you won’t get another daughter.

As others have said, listen to what he has to say, but obviously let him know that for you, it is all still very raw.

kittylester Mon 19-Aug-24 13:41:26

Can I just add that this new relationship may not last but you can be a constant in the lives of your grandchildren come what may. So don't let your sadness come between you and them. So, do whatever it takes for them.

Wise as always, baggs.

Harris27 Mon 19-Aug-24 13:43:34

I was a child of three when my mother died. I had three older brothers. My dad met my stepmother and married less than two tears later it was 1965 were things different then? It’s only as I got older I thought about this my step sister felt the same we get in great but bath didn’t have the best childhood. As both parents never seemed happy. Life is difficult and I send you my love and condolences on your lovely daughter.

Labradora Mon 19-Aug-24 13:53:36

B9exchange

The counsellors at the hospice describe men grieving in two ways. They either cannot contemplate another relationship and are left incapable with their grief, or they cannot cope with the emptiness of their lives, and seek a new partner almost immediately. Some of these rushed new relationships work really well, strangely. I am so sorry for your loss and can fully understand how difficult this must seem to you, like betraying your daughter's memory, but everyone has to find their own way of coping. Give the new girlfriend a chance, if it works out, the children will have a very important female model in their lives. They will never forget their mum, and you will help them keep those memories alive, you will always be there for them if you don't alienate a new partner.

👏👏👏

Role Mon 19-Aug-24 14:07:13

This may not be the case, but there are some very predatory types ready to pounce if the opportunity arises. I think with your son in-law’s best interests in mind, you need to meet and get to know the girlfriend. All may be well, alternatively your son in law could see his relationship in a whole new light.

poshpaws Mon 19-Aug-24 14:16:09

You've had some excellent, compassionate and sensible advice already, so I probably don't really need to join in, but I want to say that people are such complicated, complex creatures that sometimes even they themselves would have difficulty in explaining their actions and emotions.

Paul McCartney, after the wife he always appeared to adore (Linda) died of cancer, publicly stated that he was not a man who could live alone and made his ill-fated marriage to the second wife whom he divorced bitterly, before swiftly thereafter marrying his current wife.

For myself, I believe I'll be reunited with my late husband, whom I adore - I would feel that I was being unfaithful to him if I let any other man into my heart romantically. (Never gonna happen - nobody measures up to my George!)

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that we are all incredibly different from each other, so please try not to feel betrayed and hurt on your daughter's behalf, just be glad that he was a good husband to her and is a good father to her sons.

And please accept my deepest sympathy on your loss. I truly believe you'll be reunited with your daughter in time.

Esmay Mon 19-Aug-24 15:41:12

First of all please accept my sincere condolences .
Something similar happened in my family and I felt really upset at the time .
Marriage was mooted and many people had a great deal to say about it .
But though it's seems disrespectful it's how your son in law is dealing with grief .
Maybe this new lady can really help him through this painful period .
She may or may not be permanent .
Sending you hugs .

pascal30 Mon 19-Aug-24 15:51:34

You sound like a wonderful caring Granny and MIL.. It is very much to your credit that he wants to come and talk to you and I think you can be a very steadying influence at the moment.. It is very common in times of grief to reach out for affection and I think having you around when he is with this new partner will probably be very helpful for him to navigate this new relationship. It may well be temporary but you are there for along time hopefully.. I hope you can also support each other in this terrible time as well.. he'll surely need you..

Patsy70 Mon 19-Aug-24 15:57:31

So very sad to learn of the death of your daughter. Many wise words of comfort here on how to best handle this very sensitive and delicate situation. I can only agree with others, that you should meet with your son-in-law to hear his explanation regarding the new relationship. She may just be a kind and caring friend. Continue to be there for your grandchildren, as I’m certain you will be, and also for your son-in-law. Sending a warm hug to you and your family. 💐

62Granny Mon 19-Aug-24 16:08:44

If your DD had been ill for some time before perhaps they discussed this before.
If not perhaps he may have just missed adult company. I would try and keep a cool head over this if you are able. See how it develops, I would caution him against introducing her to his DD's yet. Only because they don't want to feel pushed out while they are still getting used to being without a mother.

MissAdventure Mon 19-Aug-24 16:18:52

I was thinking that it may have been discussed beforehand, and possibly agreed that he need not be alone for long.

David49 Mon 19-Aug-24 16:42:22

This was my situation, my after a long illness my wife passed, after 12 weeks or so I did start socializing and soon found a single lady who I had known socially for some time. We dated discretely, after a few weeks my eldest daughter visited unexpectedly and “caught” us, a difficult moment.

However, it turned out that unknown to me they knew each other, next day I visited daughter to “face the music”, before I could she said K is lovely, look after her she will look after you, can I tell my sisters.

It did raise a few eyebrows but a resounding endorsement from eldest daughter made it easy for us

grandtanteJE65 Mon 19-Aug-24 17:16:26

I could literally weep for you, your husband and your son-in-law, but that will not help you in the slightest.

You are in a very bad place, right now, and I do understand why you feel your son-in-law is being disrespectful BUT

we all deal with grief in our own way and are you absolutely sure that your daughter did not, I am assuming she died of an illness and knew she was dying, forgive me if the assumption is wrong and she died in an accident, tell her husband that she hoped he would find someone else to love after her death?

If you possibly can, let your son-in-law come and explain and try not to make it too obvious that you find this development too soon and disrespectful to your dear daughter and to your own feelings and grief.

It is very hard to be a widower with young children, even when, as your son-in-law has, there are parents-in-law running themselves ragged to help.

If at all possible, breath a sigh of relief that this unhappy man has found a glimmer of light at the end of the very dark tunnel you are all walking through.

I am sure the only light you can dimly see is that coming from your grandchildren, so please don't do or say anything now that might, just might, make seeing them in future hard.

And off-load on us on here, and to a good friend, ær a priest or minister or a grief counseller.

Greyduster Mon 19-Aug-24 18:08:59

I am so sorry for your loss. This is such a raw and difficult situation for you. Some very thoughtful and sensitive advice on here. Keep your powder dry until you’ve met her, as you will have to do. As has been said, it may not run the course.
When my son’s first wife died, after just seven years of marriage, we were all devastated and helping him through that time was the hardest thing we ever had to do. I’ve dealt with my own recent loss better than I dealt with his. It was an extremely happy marriage. But a year down the line, he said to me that he simply couldn’t go in living alone, he felt as if he was going to be treading water for the rest of his life and did I think it was too soon to start moving forward again. I said I wasn’t the person he should be asking, so he spoke to his mother in law, who was living in South Africa, and she said he had made her daughter happier than she had ever been and he was too young to let his grief stop him from living his best life. He went on to meet and marry a lovely lady, but sixteen years on he still, out of respect, visits and looks after his first wife’s grave.

Cossy Mon 19-Aug-24 18:30:29

Firstly, very sincere condolences on your loss.

Secondly, there is no real time limit, and my feelings towards this are in his grief and loneliness he’s reached out for some comfort and company.

It may not last.

charley68 Mon 19-Aug-24 18:43:00

Summerlove

Nannarose

I am so sorry, how difficult for you all. I have often noted these 'rebound' relationships, and think they can be a reaction to grief.
You don't say how well you got on generally before you daughter's death. Certainly express no opinion as to how you view this new relationship.
I think, broadly it is OK to say 'I'm sure you realise that we are struggling a bit with this, but of course are here for you & the kids'
He probably won't suggest it yet, but if asked to meet the new 'someone' I think you should have a response ready. You may feel the need to meet her if she is spending time with the children. But I also think it OK to say 'Do you mind if we don't just yet - I think we need a bit longer'. Don't say it in a way that makes him feel bad, just to explain that is now you feel.

I'd like to add that I have known a good few of these relationships last and be very good for the children. That is not what is on your mind now, but your grandchildren need you to keep things on an even keel.

Exactly this. Nanarose explains my thoughts far better than I could.

I will add though, as a child who lost her mother far too young, my father remarried quickly. The maternal family (and my mothers friends) we remained in contact with, were the ones who supported my new reality. The ones who accepted the new status quo. The ones who let me lead on if we talked about my mother or not. There were very lovely adults who I loved dearly who let me know with actions that I was grieving improperly and being cruel to my mother by accepting my stepmother. We let those friendships fade. My stepmother tried to befriend these women, but their grief was too entrenched. Their love my my mother not strong enough to see how the children thrived without her.
Feel your grief. It’s real and normal and natural. But be aware of how it impacts children.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this fionamay10

My daughter's FIL met and married a woman he met just about one year following the sudden death of his wife. He could not face living alone and was actively looking for a new partner a couple of months following his wife's funeral.

My daughter's DH was ok with the new marriage, his brother was not, and still does not speak to her.

Georgesgran Mon 19-Aug-24 18:48:25

I can’t pass without adding how sorry I am about your daughter.
I’ve 2 DDs and I cannot begin to imagine anything happening to them. DD2 suffered a life changing incident, which was hard enough to come to terms with (if ever).
My Grandad’s first wife spent most of her time at the local church and vicarage, completely ignoring their 2 daughters - rumour had it they were almost wild (going back to 1950). When she died after a massive stroke, almost immediately after the funeral, he approached my (widowed) Grandma and they were married within 6 weeks!
I think he just wanted someone at home to cook and clean and bring up his daughters and quite honestly I think my Grandma wanted the security and financial gain (he was a coal face miner) marriage would bring. My Mum, her daughter actually married my Dad a couple of months earlier.

I think the observation of the two types of widower is quite accurate - I’ve seen both first hand.

kircubbin2000 Mon 19-Aug-24 19:15:43

2 of our friends who are widowers were dating after 6 weeks. One said to my husband he was afraid he'd never have sex again. Both had been happily married.

V3ra Mon 19-Aug-24 20:07:14

Some lovely supportive words here from people who have sadly been there before you fionamay10

Be gentle and kind to yourselves and your son-in-law.

Your beloved daughter will never be forgotten, and will forever live on in your darling grandchildren xx

HeavenLeigh Mon 19-Aug-24 21:32:28

So sorry to hear this my heart goes out to you! I would find this very hard to accept. Maybe the lady he is speaking to listened and offered support yes it’s very quick to move on. I would listen to what he had to say, but I wouldn’t say anything back at the end of the day he will do what he feels is right for him and his children. I don’t think it takes away the love he had for your daughter though! But I totally can understand where you are coming from

StephNIE Mon 19-Aug-24 21:38:10

So sorry for your loss fionamay10.

The husband of a late friend of mine did this. He had a girlfriend within weeks of the death of his wife, who I know was genuinely very beloved to him. It was difficult for some of their friends, and indeed, I found it hard to deal with. However, this relationship was very short lived.

My friend / his wife, was ill for a couple of years and I think the poor man was lost, after his wife's death. I think the relationship was a distraction from his desperate sadness.

He was and is a good man, and I think his behaviour was borne out of desperation after losing someone he loved so much.

I hope you continue to be able to remain close to your grandchildren. It will mean so much to all of you to have this continuing relationship.

crazyH Mon 19-Aug-24 21:45:35

How sad Fionamay - you must be so sad and hurt. But he is young and has to move on. I think he is also thinking of his children. She will never replace their mother but she will be a mother-figure. However, it’s only weeks since he lost his wife. I think it’s too soon, but just accept it and continue to support your grandchildren. flowers

Luckygirl3 Mon 19-Aug-24 22:23:49

I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your daughter.

Do welcome your SIL over to talk with you about it all. I am sure he will understand how hard this is for you and will be wanting to explain his position with sensitivity. Hard though it is, I think you ned to hear him out with an open mind if you can manage this. I know it will not be easy.

I am wishing you the strength to deal with this very sad situation.

Taichinan Mon 19-Aug-24 22:36:02

It's a very difficult situation. I have never lost a child thank God, but I think it must be very different to losing a husband. I have lived through that twice myself, and my daughter has also lost her husband. The first time, for me, I just couldn't bear the 'aloneness' and looking at all those empty years ahead - I was 52. But although I married again, my first husband was always special in my heart. My daughter was only 42 when her husband died, leaving her with two young girls aged 10 and 12. She is now with a lovely man who was also widowed. I think he was 40 when he was left with three young boys.
They are very happy together with their amalgamated family, but I know his late wife's family have found it very hard, as you are finding it, to come to terms with his 'moving on'. But although he is very happy with my daughter, he still loves his first wife dearly and remembers her openly and proudly. The same applies to my daughter. Young widowed people have been put into a position that they never wanted, but now they have a life to live. Your son-in-law sounds like a lovely young man and it's so lovely that he wants to talk to you about this new person in his life. I am sure he will reassure you that he will always love your daughter and will keep her memory alive for her children - as will you.
I am so sorry for your terrible loss and I hope the love of your daughter's children will help to fill the cruel gap left by her passing x

Guesswhat Mon 19-Aug-24 22:51:18

I am very sorry to hear about your daughter, fionamay.

This may sound perverse but, in a way, your son-in-law’s actions are a compliment to his late wife. If their marriage had been unhappy he would not want to have a relationship again in a hurry.

He misses her and wants to replicate the happiness they shared.

I do understand your distress though. My sincere condolences to you all.