Dennis the Menace and Beryl the Peril next door.

Human Rights? I don't think terrorists can be called human.

So partly in support of human rights

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Human Rights? I don't think terrorists can be called human.

But they are - that is the fearful fact that we all have to live with.

Mandela was imprisoned as a terrorist

There’s a fine line between being a freedom fighter and a terrorist. The ANC certainly committed acts of terrorism. He said himself that he was no saint.

I dislike Gerry Adams. I don’t want my money used to compensate him. But a Court considered his appeal and confirmed he was illegally detained twice
So he is entitled to compensation. Starmer is doing as the Court recommended

There’s a queue of others far more deserving of compensation which Labour seems to be slow in paying. Postmasters, recipients of infected blood …

At the time of his arrest and trial. mandela was a terrorist.

FGT source is ALWAYS the Telegraph haha!! Totally deluded but clearly happy to remain ignorant

Ghandi was a freedom fighter

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I don’t think my comment was a ‘cheap dig’.
Starmer is a Human Rights lawyer through and through. I suppose we ought not to expect anything less from him because of that.
However, as our Prime Minister, I expected different.

Compensation for the blood scandal victims perhaps.
The Post Office employees?

Gerry Adam’s?
Get to the back of the queue boy. You (ought to have) a very long wait.

Keep up FGT. Compensation was made to the first blood scandal victims in December, and to PO victims interim compensation can be claimed while the individual compensation is resolved.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67942935

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Human Rights? I don't think terrorists can be called human.

I rest my case.

Doodledog

Worrying ‘ if true’? So you don’t know the detail either but are happy to post in defence of someone in despair at the HRA being applied?

Double standards?

We shouldn't forget the innocent people who were locked up as terrorists, some just because they were Irish. I remember it all well as I was working for the police at the time, one officer told my friend he thought I was an IRA plant, he swore he'd seen me in Irish Republican clubs. My friend couldn't stop laughing, I had two young children and was doing a part time degree as well as a fulltime job and I was teetotal and didn't go in local bars let alone Irish Republican Clubs, I'm not sure were I'd have found the time to be honest.

There he was, an anti-terrorist officer prepared to spread that misinformation. I did mention that my granddad and his family would be mighty miffed if they had to attend the next Orange Lodge meeting with an IRA member in the family. I wonder if they'd have got kicked out although to be honest me being locked up was a bigger worry for me.

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist

Precisely eazybee.

LizzieDrip

^One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist^

Precisely eazybee.

Or in my case just mistaken identity.

Blowing up innocent people is never right.

It's wonderful to look back as some of you do with rose-tinted spectacles.
Some of us knew the reality.

Allira

Blowing up innocent people is never right.

It's wonderful to look back as some of you do with rose-tinted spectacles.
Some of us knew the reality.

Well my spectacles aren't very rose coloured. Say I did like a drink and occasionally went to an Irish Republican club would this officer have been OK deciding I was an IRA plant? How far would it have gone? Could I have gone to prison? Innocent people did go to prison so I suppose it is a possibility.

I don't know how far it did go, apparently investigations were made but was that me being followed (God they'd have been bored) or look at my family background? I suppose the family Orange Order links would have made it less likely I was an IRA plant but who knows.

You are mistaken

You are mistaken Allira

theworriedwell

Allira

Blowing up innocent people is never right.

It's wonderful to look back as some of you do with rose-tinted spectacles.
Some of us knew the reality.

Well my spectacles aren't very rose coloured. Say I did like a drink and occasionally went to an Irish Republican club would this officer have been OK deciding I was an IRA plant? How far would it have gone? Could I have gone to prison? Innocent people did go to prison so I suppose it is a possibility.

I don't know how far it did go, apparently investigations were made but was that me being followed (God they'd have been bored) or look at my family background? I suppose the family Orange Order links would have made it less likely I was an IRA plant but who knows.

I wasn't referring to your post, in fact didn't read it.

I will now.

Anniebach

You are mistaken Allira

Oh, so it's ok to blow up innocent people including children?

This thread becomes more and more bizarre.

Or do you mean I am mistaken when I say I knew the reality,?
Why would you say that?

Allira

theworriedwell

Allira

Blowing up innocent people is never right.

It's wonderful to look back as some of you do with rose-tinted spectacles.
Some of us knew the reality.

Well my spectacles aren't very rose coloured. Say I did like a drink and occasionally went to an Irish Republican club would this officer have been OK deciding I was an IRA plant? How far would it have gone? Could I have gone to prison? Innocent people did go to prison so I suppose it is a possibility.

I don't know how far it did go, apparently investigations were made but was that me being followed (God they'd have been bored) or look at my family background? I suppose the family Orange Order links would have made it less likely I was an IRA plant but who knows.

I wasn't referring to your post, in fact didn't read it.

I will now.

It was just an illustration of how innocent people can get swept up in these things. My husband always says put me in a line up and anyone would pick me out as Irish (I think he's exaggerating a bit) and apparently that was enough for me to be labelled.

Yes, they do; innocent people were killed by the IRA.

However, it seems some posters will continue to defend them.

Time to leave this thread.

Innocent people were killed too