Dennis the Menace and Beryl the Peril next door.

lixy

This thread is on Chat - should be in News and Politics.

So is this yet another example of Tory misinformation and ‘stirring’? Certainly several people have been disappointed by the misleading title.

I’m with madeleine45 in that we need grown up politics without all the point scoring, not the knock-about comedy of weekly comics.

Really, "Tory misinformation". Oh dear not allowed to criticise Beryl etc.
CBI call Reeves a disaster for UK business, and they know better than her.
They are a daily comic comedy, never mind a weekly one.

freya criticise away to your heart’s content if it makes you happy.

I prefer to be positive and optimistic for the next five years.

The ‘misleading’ was referring to the thread’s title and its misplacement as it disappointed some people who were looking for a lighthearted moment. But never mind, every one enjoys a bit of doom and gloom mongering don’t they?

every one enjoys a bit of doom and gloom mongering don’t they?

This Labour government certainly does!

Eek! More gloom and doom on its way …

Labour. Sinn Fein. Gerry Adams. Compensation. ECHR.
I despair tonight.

FGT what are you on about? A few verbs might help!

I'm a farmer.. small business and medium enterprise owners too are hideously affected by Staarmer FarmerHarmer and Rachel Theeves policies and you will shops and businesses vanishing more and more from your local towns and villages..unless the Labour govt u turn on their current policies..

Agree

Nan0

I'm a farmer.. small business and medium enterprise owners too are hideously affected by Staarmer FarmerHarmer and Rachel Theeves policies and you will shops and businesses vanishing more and more from your local towns and villages..unless the Labour govt u turn on their current policies..

In what way have the government’s policies affected you, Nan0? It’s good to have someone directly involved to tell us the detail.

Were you planning to sell the farm, or pass it on to family, so you would have to pay tax on anything over the threshold (£4million, if memory serves?) or is there something else they have done that’s getting in the way for you?

For you LizzieDrip:

“GERRY ADAMS is in line for taxpayer-funded compensation because of Sir Keir Starmer’s human rights plans, senior peers have warned.
The former Sinn Fein president is set to benefit from a decision by the Government to repeal Troubles legislation.
The current law blocks his claim for compensation over his detention in prison in the 1970s for suspected involvement in terrorism. But Sir Keir’s plans will reverse two sections of the 2023 Northern Ireland Troubles Act that denied Mr Adams and up to 400 other IRA “suspects” also detained in the 1970s the right to claim compensation. The move has been agreed because a Northern Irish high court ruled that the legislation was incompatible with human rights laws. Hilary Benn, the Northern Ireland Secretary, said that the decision to repeal the law underlined “the Government’s absolute commitment to the Human Rights Act”.
The move has been branded “unacceptable” by IRA bombing victims.“

Source Today’s Telegraph.

Okay Labour.
Thanks for this. You can’t pay for the WFA, compensate in some small way the WASPI women, bash the farmers, but you can give an IRA quarter master (vile man) taxpayer’s money. And who knows what level of compensation he will get?

It stinks.

Louella12

*every one enjoys a bit of doom and gloom mongering don’t they?*

This Labour government certainly does!

Absolutely . Don't care criticise, is their mantra.

Adams famously said" they haven't gone away you know " post a failed atrocity

Adams was in the IRA and , like his mentor Corbyn supported Sinn Fein/ IRA or he would have walked away from Corbyn. He didn't .

Starmer, you disgust me with this action and I question your patriotism. You are pretty vacuous.

Yes FGT, it does stink. Starmer can be relied upon to go overboard with so called human rights, given his specialisation when a barrister. Most of us here remember the Troubles. Life at the time was not as it seems today looking back from the perspective of peace. It was an horrendous time. Starmer won’t remember the reality of that terrible period in history.

I despair.

I am sure Starmer recalls much of The Troubles

Most of us were adults then. He was born in 1962.

www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/15/surprise-fall-in-uk-inflation-to-25-eases-pressure-on-rachel-reeves
A different headline from today

Starmer appals me.
Originally I thought he was Corbyn's stooge, then was relieved when he disposed of him, although I thought there would be a hard left-wing coup once he was in power and he would be displaced.

Now it appears he is the hard left coup. The intention to facilitate compensation for the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams is appalling. I remember the time of the Troubles very well, and the Birmingham bombings in particular.

Of he’ll remember, and will remember the enormous relief when the Troubles ended. Many people on both sides made huge concessions in order to allow the agreement to stand, and to save lives, despite the losses they had suffered.

I don’t know how they did it, and have nothing but admiration for them. Wrongs were done by the army, the government of the time, as well as by the IRA and other factions.

Of course wrongful imprisonment is incompatible with human rights laws, and however much people may disagree with Adams’ politics if we start to pick and choose which humans have rights it is a slippery slope.

I don’t know enough about the detail to comment further, but think that using this to make another cheap dig at the government is pretty low. Having said that, Reform are not in favour of the HRA, are they? Terrifying.

eazybee

Starmer appals me.
Originally I thought he was Corbyn's stooge, then was relieved when he disposed of him, although I thought there would be a hard left-wing coup once he was in power and he would be displaced.

Now it appears he is the hard left coup. The intention to facilitate compensation for the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams is appalling. I remember the time of the Troubles very well, and the Birmingham bombings in particular.

The Guildford bombings were the first here on the mainland. I lived there at the time.

I was optimistic that Labour would be able to set the economy on the right path, prices, particularly fuel prices are still too high but not a lot we can do about fuel. Rents a £ Mortgages too high as well.
With November inflation below expectations, the fall in sterling has been arrested for now, let’s hope for more good news.

I don’t think my comment was a ‘cheap dig’.
Starmer is a Human Rights lawyer through and through. I suppose we ought not to expect anything less from him because of that.
However, as our Prime Minister, I expected different.

Compensation for the blood scandal victims perhaps.
The Post Office employees?

Gerry Adam’s?
Get to the back of the queue boy. You (ought to have) a very long wait.

A very long wait hopefully or maybe he won’t have the brass neck to apply for it.🤬
Another strange move by Starmer.

FGT you have big problems with anyone supporting human rights ?

I don’t know enough about the detail to comment further, but think that using this to make another cheap dig at the government is pretty low

So you don't know but it may seem you are using this to have yet another cheap dig at FriedGreenTomatoes2?

Its worrying if true and needs further investigation.

Compensation for the blood scandal victims perhaps.
The Post Office employees?

Yes, there is a long queue in front of compensation for terrorists.

Anniebach

FGT you have big problems with anyone supporting human rights ?

I support the human rights of people, including children, to be able to go about their business in the UK without fear of being blown up by terrorists.

Worrying ‘ if true’? So you don’t know the detail either but are happy to post in defence of someone in despair at the HRA being applied?

Double standards?