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6 Months On From The Election.....

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mae13 Sun 02-Feb-25 23:40:57

.......and the charity foodbanks are apparently busier than ever.

The government - supposedly Socialist - are actively avoiding any reference to them, as if they are embarrassed by these facilities continuing existence when Starmer promised to deliver "Change".

Really? Labour is so much similar to the Tories that you couldn't get a bus ticket between them.

Do Starmer, Reeves and Rayner know where their nearest foodbank is?

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:48:23

Casdon

Isn’t a community cupboard available to anybody, as a means of reducing food waste, rather than a foodbank, for which people have to be eligible though? I’d expect a lot of people would use a community cupboard to get free food?

Yes it is available to all, whether in need or not, one of its aims is to help reduce food waste.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:49:25

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

😊😊

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:51:32

LizzieDrip

Or do you mean these mae13 and eazybee:

eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/

I’d actually say that’s quite a lot for 6 or so months.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:53:54

maddyone

^if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal^

Perhaps free speech should be outlawed. People shouldn’t be allowed to express their opinions.

The issue with “opinions” is that they are not “facts”

It would have been more accurate and factual to state “I don’t agree with anything this govt has done in its first 6 months” rather than claiming they are failing and have done zero.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:54:54

nanna8

Starmer would support that.

As a Human Rights Lawyer I very much doubt that!

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Feb-25 18:58:32

petra

That’s disgraceful. 6 months on and they haven’t fixed everything the tories ruined over the past 14 years.
Has anyone got a magic wand they could lend the Labour Party 🤷‍♀️

This.

How do you think this could have been fixed in this time Mae? It would take substantial rises in benefits to fix the ability to feed a family without food banks. I'll keep my subscriptions up until they are not needed anymore.

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Feb-25 19:01:59

maddyone

I don’t suppose they care.

My local labour party branch was part of the local initiative to set one up in the first place, its an insult to say "we dont care!"

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 19:46:47

Labour?
Let’s hear it for Milliband … (stop booing at the back).

We are an island of coal, we have the North Sea full of gas and oil, we have an abundance of shale gas, we have Rolls Royce who are ready and waiting to produce small modular nuclear power stations. You have to be a special kind of stupid to end up with the world’s most expensive energy!

MayBee70 Mon 03-Feb-25 20:03:45

Well, vote leave said our energy costs would come down if we voted for Brexit. So much for that.And the previous government getting rid of our gas storage facilities have caused problems with energy prices.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 20:20:42

Was it the previous governments decision MayBee or Centrica’s? Genuine question.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 20:22:07

Google is our friend:

Why was Rough gas storage closed?
First opened in 1985, it was closed by Centrica Storage Ltd in 2017 because of the need for costly maintenance, the UK government declining to subsidise repairs.

Barleyfields Mon 03-Feb-25 20:22:21

It was Centrica’s decision.

LizzieDrip Mon 03-Feb-25 20:57:51

It was Centrica’s decision only because the government (Tory) refused to subsidise repairs.

They knew this would push Centrica into closing the storage facility. Managed decline - the Tories were masters at it!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 21:06:15

Breaking News:
Reform UK is leading Labour in a YouGov voting intention poll for the first time.

Figures put Reform UK on 25% of the vote – its joint-highest score to date – up from 23% on its previous poll on Jan 26-27.

Meanwhile, Labour is on 24% (down 3) and the Conservatives are on 21% (down 1).

The Lib Dems remain unchanged on 14% and the Greens stay the same on 9%.

Sadly I do think Reform might be peaking too soon and 4 years till the next GE is a long time. Labour got in because the electorate wanted to give the Tories a good kicking (deservedly so) and so Starmer hit the jackpot. If an election were to be held next month Labour would tank. We all know this. They are so unpopular! But hey, Starmer has 4 years to Build the Foundations (or whatever the newest 3 word buzzline is) or mess up completely. We have to wait and see really.

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 21:17:33

You’ve lost me again FriedGreenTomatoes2. Why would Labour tank if they got 24%, and Reform wouldn’t if they got 25%? The result (if it was based on percentage of votes cast) would be no overall victory, but in fact it would depend on seats won, not % of the vote, as it always does. Your logic defeats me.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 21:23:55

I just think Reform are in the ascendency Casdon. Before the election they were polling 14% so a massive surge in popularity. Not so Labour. That said I don’t think Reform can hold out for 4 more years.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Feb-25 21:25:39

They’re in the ascendancy because everyone is projecting onto them their ideas of what they think or want them to be, not knowing what, apart from being anti immigration, they actually are.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 21:28:43

Probably MayBee bit like Labour at the GE! Very light on substance. People didn’t really care. The main thing was They Weren’t Tory. Anyway, they’re in for another four and a half years. Democracy at work. Let’s see what they do with this opportunity to reset.

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 21:31:25

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I just think Reform are in the ascendency Casdon. Before the election they were polling 14% so a massive surge in popularity. Not so Labour. That said I don’t think Reform can hold out for 4 more years.

What matters is always the number of seats won at the election for the next government. Nothing will really make a difference in the end unless your party wins enough seats to be in power, either alone or in coalition. After 14 years in opposition nobody knows that better than Labour supporters.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 21:40:42

True of course Casdon.

MayBee70 Tue 04-Feb-25 15:43:24

Am I happy about some of the things Labour have done so far? No. But I am angry that there seems to be very little publicity about the good things they have done given that the media is out to get them ( and also Labours PR machine leaves a lot to be desired). However, I think people have quickly forgotten the car crash of a government we’ve had for years because of the Conservative party fighting within itself. They were more concerned about staying in power than doing what was best for the country. I just watched a press conference that Johnson gave when countries like Italy were begging us to take covid seriously and Johnson was saying that, as far as he was concerned it was more important to protect the economy. That’s the sort of government we’ve had for 14 years and, thank goodness we’ve moved on. I’m also proud of the fact that we have one of the few governments that aren’t lurching towards a populist far right agenda.

Cossy Tue 04-Feb-25 15:52:51

MayBee70

Am I happy about some of the things Labour have done so far? No. But I am angry that there seems to be very little publicity about the good things they have done given that the media is out to get them ( and also Labours PR machine leaves a lot to be desired). However, I think people have quickly forgotten the car crash of a government we’ve had for years because of the Conservative party fighting within itself. They were more concerned about staying in power than doing what was best for the country. I just watched a press conference that Johnson gave when countries like Italy were begging us to take covid seriously and Johnson was saying that, as far as he was concerned it was more important to protect the economy. That’s the sort of government we’ve had for 14 years and, thank goodness we’ve moved on. I’m also proud of the fact that we have one of the few governments that aren’t lurching towards a populist far right agenda.

Well said and I agree. I would vote Labour again, even though, in common with many, I don’t like some of their actions, nor how they were done. However, they have done a lot in 6 months and much of it seems to be positive, yet not known widely.

Freya5 Tue 04-Feb-25 15:56:14

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

Yes that's a positive, but along with National Insurance rise and other business costs, higher costs passed onto consumer, business will not take on employee if one leaves, they won't employ more people. Why don't you listen to businesses before putting this rise as a positive.
See what CBI have to say about this.

bathsalts Tue 04-Feb-25 15:59:57

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour?
Let’s hear it for Milliband … (stop booing at the back).

We are an island of coal, we have the North Sea full of gas and oil, we have an abundance of shale gas, we have Rolls Royce who are ready and waiting to produce small modular nuclear power stations. You have to be a special kind of stupid to end up with the world’s most expensive energy!

No worries, Reform will sort it. Or perhaps Elon could buy the UK?

MayBee70 Tue 04-Feb-25 16:00:44

Freya5

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

Yes that's a positive, but along with National Insurance rise and other business costs, higher costs passed onto consumer, business will not take on employee if one leaves, they won't employ more people. Why don't you listen to businesses before putting this rise as a positive.
See what CBI have to say about this.

At least Keir Starmer has never said ‘f**k business’ has he?