54 Year Old Woman visited by Police

Allira

Barbadosbelle

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I read so many articles, over about a 6-month period some three decades ago, about children and elderly people being killed/seriously-injured because of accidents/fainting and falling on upright knifes in open dishwashers that I immediately went out and bought a Neff with a cutlery tray on the top.

Brilliant.
Now on my third and I wouldn't have any other format (although Miele and Bosch are the same company so probably also excellent). Machine used every second day, more at weekend, so gets a lot of use.
The cutlery tray is brilliant- I also use the gaps for small ramekins and egg cups.
Be safe.
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Siemens dishwashers are very good and some have a cutlery tray.

This thread is morphing in a very strange way!

The MP she criticised has been in the press for poor behaviour unbecoming an MP so she was certainly within her rights

Her reported comments referred to the local councillor David Sedgwick, part of the app group.
Important to be accurate, don't you think?

Oops, I think Barbadosbelle posted on the wrong thread and I didn't notice.
Apologies

As you were! 🙅‍♀️

Onedaysoon

I’m extremely concerned about this. There are real crimes happening and the Manchester Police acknowledged that this was never a crime but they sent a Sargeant and another officer over to intimidate (it was intimidation in my view) this woman. The MP she criticised has been in the press for poor behaviour unbecoming an MP so she was certainly within her rights. This was a blatant waste of Police time and should never have happened - why couldn’t they call if they had to follow it up? This is happening across the country more and more and Labour are now stopping elections in certain areas (although I believe this is now being looked at to see if it’s actually legal). The government can now spy on us via our phones, they want digital ID (Tony Blair never stops talking about it) and digital currency. I wonder sometimes whether we are actually going to get a vote in four years time!

Me too, this country is being taken down a path I do not like by a dangerous man that 'prefers Davos' and is doing the bidding of his globalist masters. This deliberate 'wokeism' has been stirred up to confuse, stress and divide us, and yes our freedom of speech IS being eroded and deliberately so. I also think that an election in 4 years time is potentially not going to happen!

EVERYTHING that has happened in the last 4/5 years has been planned and is deliberate. Immigration - again deliberate and happening all over, those governments that are following Davos have all brought those young fit MEN in, whilst gaslighting us that they are being smuggled in by criminal gangs. Yes, some are, they sell a place on a bad dinghy to men women & children, they are crammed in dangerously, have no life protection and are drowning. These are probably genuine refugees fleeing in fear of their lives. The others however are men ONLY. They are coming in droves, in much better dinghies wearing matching new bright orange life jackets that are now 5 border securities seem unable to spot using RADAR, drones, binoculars or even the naked eye?? These are being BROUGHT IN by the government, as it is a UN policy called Replacement Migration - google it, the policy is there on the internet for all to see!

The US is fortunate as Trump is saying NO to all the nonsense, he has saved the IS from going down the same route. Canada is actually worse than it is here.

Just in case there's a knock on the door, "Free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse one another"

Scottow v CPS (2020)

Then again, it is an offence to use a 'public communications network 'for the purpose of causing an annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another'. Doesn't make sense really?

Any reliable info yet about what she actually said?

Eight pages in, and no😀

No: we know she made multiple posts, many on a public WhatsApp group, but many in a private group, and we have been told iirc 5 comments.

Unlikely ever to know what she said. The lady herself is the source of any information and, as I posted before, she is not necessarily a reliable source.

If one group was an open WhatsApp group presumably that was available but in the closed group it wouldn't have been.

People tend to make stronger remarks when they think its private.

Lot of fuss over nothing. Police followed up a report as is their job and 5 minutes of fame claimed happily by a woman "too afraid to say anything" contacting the paper most likely to make the biggest hooha.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Yep that was also said about every feminist who talked to the press. She could make a lot more money from this thread alone if she sued for libel.

Best of luck to her. She has as much right to report harassment here as whoever reported her. Perhaps the comments would see the light of day in court.

Was it important that she was 54? Would have been important if she were 53 or 43?

LovesBach

Grandmabatty

Where's your proof?

I've just googled it - this is perfectly true.

The truth is a complaint was made about her to the police and the police have to inform somebody if a complaint about them is made to the police. The police visited her to inform her that a complaint had been made but no further action would be taken against her, she wasn’t home and the police spoke to her husband.

The facts were distorted beyond all recognition by The Daily Mail, there is the truth and the Daily Mail truth and never the twain will meet.

Maremia

Any reliable info yet about what she actually said?

Just don't know why this is being discussed without having that information. Some people do write some diabolitcal things about what they'd like to do, or have done to, politicians, and others. She may not have meant it literally, but incitment to hatred and death threats, etc, are illegal, thank goodness.

Claremont

Maremia

Any reliable info yet about what she actually said?

Just don't know why this is being discussed without having that information. Some people do write some diabolitcal things about what they'd like to do, or have done to, politicians, and others. She may not have meant it literally, but incitment to hatred and death threats, etc, are illegal, thank goodness.

She may not have meant it literally, but incitment to hatred and death threats, etc, are illegal, thank goodness.

You appear to be crediting her with having made incitement to hatred and death threats, could you provide the link to your source for this?

I'm guessing that Claremont was talking generally about threats to politicians - they have been made locally where I live to councillors.

If there had been such evidence I think the police call would have been different.

Its no longer in the papers but as things stand, we dont know what all her comments were, we've only been given 4 or 5. but what Jane43 said just above remains the situation

"The truth is a complaint was made about her to the police and the police have to inform somebody if a complaint about them is made to the police. The police visited her to inform her that a complaint had been made but no further action would be taken against her, she wasn’t home and the police spoke to her husband".

Claremont refers to 'she' immediately after referring to this particular case. Why use the female pronoun if it was a generic reference?
Are you sure that every complaint about somebody to the police results in two detectives visiting the home to inform the subject of the complaint? I'll ask my son next time I speak to him, but I'd think it a better use of resources simply to send a letter especially if no further action is to be taken. How many police hours are wasted by such visits?

Initially I thought Rosie yes, why not a letter: (depending on what the content of the so far unknown posts were and how many),
but then I thought if it were me, getting a letter out of the blue from the police without a chance to ask questions and ask for clarity would be worse than a call in person.

I can just picture it in the DM "threatening letters sent out to....Mrs x, age 54, felt intimidated, had no chance to question contents or ask questions....."

I'm not sure if anyone has already sent this link for @Crossstitchfan as I haven't had the time to read through all the posts. Apologies if this is a duplication.

Wyllow3

Initially I thought Rosie yes, why not a letter: (depending on what the content of the so far unknown posts were and how many),
but then I thought if it were me, getting a letter out of the blue from the police without a chance to ask questions and ask for clarity would be worse than a call in person.

As I understand she wasn't home so there wasn't a chance to ask or answer questions. I'm still not convinced this is a mandated legal obligation, and it is clearly stated there would be no further action. They wouldn't tell her who made the complaint so that would surely be the first question anyone would ask. I continue to think it's a huge waste of resources which are supposed to be so scarce.

Cossy the mail in Sunday screen shot her comments

Only a (carefully selected) few of them to prop up the story line. As said above, we actually don't know what she said in many others.