Tommy Robinson Conservative Woman

Cossy

I’ve skimmed this and to herald Robinson as some form of modern day hero is a joke!

He leapt on this as a way of showcasing “wicked evil black men” attacking white British girls.

It doesn’t matter what colour, creed, religion or nationality the perpetrators or the victims are/were.

This is an abhorrent crime committed by men on under age vulnerable girls and all involved should be punished and the victims offered counselling.

I find it insulting to the victims that Robinson is using these awful events to further his own racist rhetoric.

It kind of did matter as fear of being labelled racist stopped various people and institutions from doing more.
Thankfully it won’t nowadays.

Wyllow3

Blimey. Well that article is pretty clear isn't it where this journal is coming from, Reform have got it right all others are dangerous globalist liberals, women have gone too far with the "me too" movement against men..... and more.....

Thanks Cossy chilling but very interesting. Blimey indeed Wyllow3.

M0nica

^ I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.^

This is not accurate, there were extensive abuse networks in Care homes for decades, long before Asian immigrants were involved. Do you not remember that disgusting MP, Cyril Smith, who consistently abused boys in a care home through a pre existing paedophile network. He was just the tip of a (very large ) iceberg.

I can remember criminal case after criminal case between 1980-2000 of sexual and physical abuse in care homes and established networks of abusers.

That some networks of sexual abusers are of Muslim heritage cannot be denied, but to talk as if they are the only or main abusers is to be deliberately blind to the other networks that existed extensively in the recent past, in schools, care homes, youth groups and everywhere young people came together - and probably still do..

Now, when many children are living in homes where the resident adult male is not their biological father, I think the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse has yet to be fully realised.

Tommy Robinson has done nothing to help abused childrens, all he has done is over-emphasised those incidences where men from Muslim backgrounds were involve and thrown out with the bathwater all the many others abused by nice white Anglo-Saxon protestants

MOnica, I was responding to the article referenced by the OP which specifically referenced the so called Asian Grooming Gangs. I’m well aware of the vulnerability of children looked after/in residential settings to organised sexual exploitation. It isn’t only the groups under discussion who realised vulnerable children were easy targets.
I knew social workers and police involved in the Cyril Smith abuse of boys at Knowle View etc in Rochdale. I could write the book about Police attempts to prosecute him and the way MI5 stopped it.
I’d go further than your suggestion that the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse when the resident male is not their biological father`* is yet to be fully realised.

I say the extent of sexual abuse of babies, infants and children is such that it leads people to deny

All Stephen is doing is profiteering from all this. He doesn't care about anything to do with it all.

we need to listen and be influenced by reliable and credible sources

I am not surprised that various people such as Tommy Robinson have a platform on this issue. Any attempt to discuss it is shut down. I talk about the problems within the Catholic Church with regard to safeguarding, when I do that no one goes 'but what about the Methodists that commit abuse'. It is fine to talk about abuse by catholic priests, it is fine to talk about abuse by Asian grooming gangs, it is fine to talk about the specific risk from step parents. They all are specific problems with regard to safeguarding. I couldn't care less who gets upset about those conversations.

Where do you encounter attempts to shut down conversations about this Galaxy? That's not been my experience...people are horrified and willing to discuss.

There seems to have been a huge amount of media coverage of this and I often hear it mentioned on Radio 4, often on programmes specifically to cover the issue.

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Well on here it always drifts on to the threat of the far right.
Not that the words far right have any meaning anymore.

Just to put it in context, which is important in my view.

Well we could all provide context about the BBC or the guardian. Both terrible on child safeguarding

Yes, do!

Well the BBC has experienced numerous issues with safeguarding, and a seemingly inability as an organisation to challenge predatory behaviour in numerous cases. It also seems to have a problem with challenging inappropriate behaviour from men generally. On other issues it has just had to pull a documentary because of its links to a terrorist group.
I just get a little tired of every publication from the mail to the telegraph being mocked when the 'progressive' sources have serious problems.

Ah, I didn't realise you meant on GN specifically.

Tommy Robinson has put himself on a platform on this subject, but his is far from the only one.

Tommy Robinson is a violent man, I don't tend to like violent men, especially those who assault women, I have I hope a fairly consistent approach to those men. I would hope my approach to predatory men such as the grooming gangs is as consistent. There are specific problems and we need to talk about them, it is very dangerous to children to create a sacred caste of people whose behaviour isn't talked about. It is fir example partly what enabled the catholics priests.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Galaxy

Tommy Robinson is a violent man, I don't tend to like violent men, especially those who assault women, I have I hope a fairly consistent approach to those men. I would hope my approach to predatory men such as the grooming gangs is as consistent. There are specific problems and we need to talk about them, it is very dangerous to children to create a sacred caste of people whose behaviour isn't talked about. It is fir example partly what enabled the catholics priests.

I agree.

Whilst I agree with you galaxy Stephen isn’t really equipped to teach or deal with those problems

Or maybe that is what you are trying to say 😂 I’m exhausted. It’s Easter soon

JaneJudge

Or maybe that is what you are trying to say 😂 I’m exhausted. It’s Easter soon

😂

Can I eat chocolate then?
Please?

We should all eat chocolate ❤️
I think we’d all be happier and much more peaceful

You are going to have to hang on in there Jane, it's still three weeks away but on the plus side next term is very short 🙂.
I don't think Stephen is equipped to walk in a straight line let alone have this conversation.

And people are now going to call me far right as I seem to be on first name terms with him.

Yes of course definitely talk and dont deflect,

The specifics on this thread were the lauding of Tommy Robinson as a "hero" in this context and the involvement of Musk and others in this particular "magazine".

Galaxy

And people are now going to call me far right as I seem to be on first name terms with him.

I know where he lives

Galaxy

I am not surprised that various people such as Tommy Robinson have a platform on this issue. Any attempt to discuss it is shut down. I talk about the problems within the Catholic Church with regard to safeguarding, when I do that no one goes 'but what about the Methodists that commit abuse'. It is fine to talk about abuse by catholic priests, it is fine to talk about abuse by Asian grooming gangs, it is fine to talk about the specific risk from step parents. They all are specific problems with regard to safeguarding. I couldn't care less who gets upset about those conversations.

I am a catholic and for some years our parish priest was a CofE priest who had, so to speak, changed sides.

I was talking to him about a cluster of cases, some physical abuse, not sexual, that drove me from the church for several years. He said to me that the extent of abuse within the CofE was far greater than in the catholic church.

As with the attention paid to sexual abuse involving Muslims, we must remember this countries long history of fear and contempt for the foreigner and their foreign religion. Before the current wave of immigration the fear and loathing was for the Irish, who emigrated to Britain, probably in millions from the 1840s onwards, and their Roman catholicism. I can remember it from my childhood. I come from an Irish army family and I can remember the doubt placed on the loyalty of soldiers of Irish heritage, despite them providing a disproportionately large proportion of the army since the late 18th century.

There is no argument that child abuse is a problem throughout society, but this concentration on particular sectors where the origins and religions are seen as alien both demonises certain sectors of society, and allows 'mainstream' society, to see it having nothing to do with them, but see it as an aberration brought in by outsiders and perpetrated by them.