Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

What is ATAAT please?

lafergar

What is ATAAT please?

ATAAT = A Thread About Another Thread

Probably not a good idea to comment on it, silly me, because another poster will then bring up another dozen threads and so it goes on! 🤣

Threads are pulled out of a woolly jumper until there’s nothing left 😆

Allira

suep1953

nanna8

If I wanted to I could actually vote in the British elections as I still have citizenship. I am interested in the mess that is British politics just now because I was born and bred there and have relatives there, including a brother in law and sister in law. I am also very interested in American and New Zealand politics because I have relatives there, too. Is that a crime ? I have never, ever,said Australia is perfect , it certainly isn’t . I voted the current mob in but they are not crash hot, lots of things they do I wouldn’t but then I’m not a politician. If people don’t like comments from overseas, feel free to ignore he , I wouldn’t be offended in any way.

Sorry Nanna8 you can't vote in UK Elections, you need to be registered to vote in the constituency in which you live

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8985/

Yes, you can vote in UK elections as an overseas voter.

www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

Overseas voter eligibility
British citizen living overseas can register to vote as an overseas voter if they meet one of two conditions:

They were previously registered to vote in UK elections, including as an overseas voter, or
They were previously resident in the UK before moving to an address abroad.
How to register
Overseas voters must apply to register in the local authority of the last address they were registered to vote or were resident.

Thanks Allira, everyday is a school day on GN.

lafergar

*If you disagree with their leftie dogma they press that report button*

No they don't.

Some "leftie types" are heart sick of the way things are going. The lack of any shred of humanity from people, the hatred, the racism. " Othering " of anybody who doesn't look or sound like themselves. Some of the posts about Southport were terrible.Any kindness is met with an accusation of " virtue signaling"
There is a huge and growing gap between those who have and those who will never have.

Well said

I am a lefty and kindness is a funny beast, be kind often just means think like I do, and some absolutely awful things have been done under the mantle of kindness.

Oreo

Threads are pulled out of a woolly jumper until there’s nothing left 😆

if nothing is 'left', some will be very please ;)

cossy and lafergirl having compassion and being concerned about those struggling is not just a leftie trait.

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

Galaxy

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

I think the trope be kind is rather passive aggressive.

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

I think the trope be kind is rather passive aggressive.

So do I grannygravy13

And it gets really complex. I have seen quite a bit of debate on kindnes with regard to the proposed welfare cuts, and whilst it is a complex subject, I am not sure that saying be kind with regard to funding the catastrophic rise in young people who are currently claiming is in fact kindness at all. Simply funding, this without asking questions is probably one of the cruelest things I have seen.

Yes I’ve found that to be true Kandinsky.

A good few of my labour friends are now politically homeless and won’t vote labour ever again Cossy

GrannyGravy13

cossy and lafergirl having compassion and being concerned about those struggling is not just a leftie trait.

Of course not?

One can be a leftie and care was the point I was making. But care, thoughtfulness, kindness, concern is now seen as "woke", " virtue signaling" and feckless and weak.

Sadly true.

Galaxy

And it gets really complex. I have seen quite a bit of debate on kindnes with regard to the proposed welfare cuts, and whilst it is a complex subject, I am not sure that saying be kind with regard to funding the catastrophic rise in young people who are currently claiming is in fact kindness at all. Simply funding, this without asking questions is probably one of the cruelest things I have seen.

"Simply funding, this without asking questions is probably one of the cruelest things I have seen."

I haven't contributed to this thread because I don't really have any comment (TBH I don't know about intolerance).

I do agree with this sentence Galaxy. Again, I don't know enough details about disability benefits to comment. My heart tells me that, of course, people with disabilities should be supported. Unfortunately (and I know this is anecdotal), the three people I know are definitely receiving disability benefits are also "swinging it". It makes me quite cross and I have to tell myself they're probably not typical.

Nevertheless, I do think that there needs to be a thorough investigation about why there has been such a big increase in people claiming disability benefits.

Maybe that makes me hard-hearted and intolerant.

Not heart-hearted growstuff , many think the same

Galaxy

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

I would suggest that the majority of them don’t even know where Gaza or Isreal is.

petra

Galaxy

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

I would suggest that the majority of them don’t even know where Gaza or Isreal is.

Why would you think that?

I suppose there are two ways of looking at it.

1. It is better that some disabled or ill people suffer real hardship as long as those swinging the lead stop getting away with it.

Or

2. It is better that some people swinging the lead get away with it as long as disabled or ill people don't suffer hardship.

I am not sure what he said and why. Is he not allowed an opinion. Then there was a strange video circulating facebook about the crowds waving only ( not any British or English flag in sight ), Palestinian flags.

I watched Eastenders when first came here, it quickly helped my English

Thanks for that growstuff.
I think for me it is not neccessarily about those 'swinging the lead' as such, although that of course causes resentment and I am not sure how left wing it is to ask people working a 12 hour shift in a care home to fund that.
But if you consign those young people to a future without work without even looking into why, then you are not treating them in a way I would have wanted my children to be treated.

As Michael Rosen pointed out today all the news is about what was said at Glastonbury. And not the people still dying in Gaza. Today, or so my partner tells me, Palestinians were killed on a beach, including the photographer that was taking pictures of them Were those people sheltering Hamas? On a beach??

Galaxy and grow stuff thanks

I don’t see it as kind to have increasing numbers of 18-25 years ago olds on sickness benefits.

Cat amongst pigeons comment, which I suspect needs its own thread. What positive outcomes follow giving people addicted to drugs and alcohol pip and increased benefits. Their neighbour who lost their job will be on basic Universal credit.
So many people with addictions simply spend any money feeding them.

The sickness’s benefit was aimed at providing extra money for bus fares etc to attend support groups, appointments and get well so return to work. Of course support services have been decimated and substance misuse has increased. We need to provide effective services but I’m not convinced people who find themselves out of work and in need of universal credit should get less than those who use additional benefits to fund addictiions

I’m open to persuasion