Trump said: “On immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.”

LizzieDrip

Oreo

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Rather a misplaced do-gooder than a racist!

Oh dear Lizziedrip there’s no need for you to be either!

You could simply be, as the majority of people in this country, including our government, very very concerned at having undocumented men from all over the world turning up here asking to stay and having to spend billions on taking care of them.

I’m happy as I am, don’t need you to tell me what I ‘could simply be’ thanks.

I’ll take the ‘misplaced do-gooder’ label; I’ll leave the racist label to others - of which there are many.

LizzieDrip

I’m happy as I am, don’t need you to tell me what I ‘could simply be’ thanks.

I’ll take the ‘misplaced do-gooder’ label; I’ll leave the racist label to others - of which there are many.

Exactly so.

It seems I do need to tell you, or somebody does, as you fail to see a problem for society here or in the many other European countries.
Even the liberal Scandi countries now have awful problems with gang related crime at sky high levels since they accepted large numbers of immigrants.
Maybe do some reading up on this subject.

If immigrants to any European country really were true asylum seekers then they would be happy to settle in safety and not commit crimes and hurt the very countries that gave them sanctuary.Certainly many countries are finding this out now.

Oreo I take no lectures from you.

LizzieDrip

I’m happy as I am, don’t need you to tell me what I ‘could simply be’ thanks.

I’ll take the ‘misplaced do-gooder’ label; I’ll leave the racist label to others - of which there are many.

The accusations of racism are uncalled for and becoming tiresome.
It detracts from sensible discussion.

Can't believe anybody takes any notice of what Trump says or thinks anything he says is well informed. He talks in sound bites and its populist claptrap.
The man is vile. A predator. A convicted felon. An inciter of riots and a self serving dishonest 'businessman' who worships wealth above all else.
He is the child of an immigrant. His wife is an immigrant. How easily people forget the storming of the Capitol and the death of a police officer defending it. He encouraged that and then pardoned the offenders. He was friends of Epstein and well immersed in the 'goings on'. He is deporting black and brown people from the US while importing white South Africans - wonder why? He has humiliated world leaders who visited him in the White House for TV entertainment and has appointed 'flat earthers' and anti vaccine people to oversee Healthcare. His attitude to women is abhorrent. Everybody who speaks against him is 'nasty' - from the Minister at his inauguration to Sadiq Khan and so many in between: I believe 12 in total. He's threatened to take over Canada, Greenland, Gaza and clearly thinks he should have everywhere he plants his feet!
Listen to Trump? You'd have to be deranged.

I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players

I'd happily host the bagpipe player who drowned out Trump in Scotland.

The US president said that a “horrible invasion” was taking place

Exactly what the majority of Scots felt about Trump arriving in Scotland judging by the brilliant posters the had!

I think the thread has moved on from what Trump says.We prefer what our own leaders say generally speaking.
Our own leaders/ government are having a hard time stopping the constant daily flow of small boats arriving from French shores and appear helpless in the face of it.
All the rhetoric from Labour last year about ‘smashing the gangs’ was just that, talk only.
It’s a European problem and will only be solved by European co-operation.

LizzieDrip

Oreo

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Rather a misplaced do-gooder than a racist!

What a thoroughly unpleasant post Lizziedrip. This is the first time in ten years on GN that I've actually seen anyone being called a racist - not good 😢

Oreo

If immigrants to any European country really were true asylum seekers then they would be happy to settle in safety and not commit crimes and hurt the very countries that gave them sanctuary.Certainly many countries are finding this out now.

Certainly, decent, hardworking immigrants, too, are totally fed up with the immigrants who form the criminal gangs running illegal vape and tobacco shops,employing illegal immigrants and , threatening anyone who may challenge them
One man from Hong Kong says he is thinking of taking his family back to HK because the situation is so bad here.

Unfortunately, Trading Standards have limited powers, can shut down these shops for a few months, only for them to open up again.

What a thoroughly unpleasant post Lizziedrip. This is the first time in ten years on GN that I've actually seen anyone being called a racist - not good 😢

Really?

The term ‘racist’ has now been rendered meaningless on forums, as it usually means that a poster disagrees with another poster on either legal or in this case illegal migration.

Allira

Oreo

If immigrants to any European country really were true asylum seekers then they would be happy to settle in safety and not commit crimes and hurt the very countries that gave them sanctuary.Certainly many countries are finding this out now.

Certainly, decent, hardworking immigrants, too, are totally fed up with the immigrants who form the criminal gangs running illegal vape and tobacco shops,employing illegal immigrants and , threatening anyone who may challenge them
One man from Hong Kong says he is thinking of taking his family back to HK because the situation is so bad here.

Unfortunately, Trading Standards have limited powers, can shut down these shops for a few months, only for them to open up again.

Yes, along with the many nail bars and so called Turkish barber shops run as money laundering outfits.There are raids to oust them but others seem to pop up like mushrooms.

Spinnaker

LizzieDrip

Oreo

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Rather a misplaced do-gooder than a racist!

What a thoroughly unpleasant post Lizziedrip. This is the first time in ten years on GN that I've actually seen anyone being called a racist - not good 😢

Oh, I've seen it used previously, Spinnaker, when posters can offer no considered response.

Not to mention Deliveroo!

Oreo

The term ‘racist’ has now been rendered meaningless on forums, as it usually means that a poster disagrees with another poster on either legal or in this case illegal migration.

Similarly the terms ‘virtue signal’ and ‘misplaced do-gooder’.

Well, I was called a virtue signaller. 😁
Never link to a charity you're supporting, in my case one in Syria.

It meant little, but calling posters racist is on a whole different level of unpleasantness.

Well said, StoneofDestiny. Take advice from a convicted felon, and a rapist who calls people who challenge him " scum"- no thanks.

I didn’t use virtue signaller😇and I would hope that my use of misplaced do-gooders was all mine own as it hasn’t featured on any threads I’ve come across.
In any case dogooding is generally a nice thing and even when misplaced only implies a certain level of naivety.
Calling posters racists for not liking the influx of undocumented men from around the world coming on small boats from France and having to be house and cared for at great expense is frankly ridiculous.Even the government doesn’t like it.Also it affects social cohesion, housing and more including crime levels.

LizzieDrip

Oreo

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Rather a misplaced do-gooder than a racist!

Why is the racist accusation always bandied about when folks are concerned about.unlimited irregular immigration and who are not in any way, shape or form racist?

Spinnaker

LizzieDrip

Oreo

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Rather a misplaced do-gooder than a racist!

What a thoroughly unpleasant post Lizziedrip. This is the first time in ten years on GN that I've actually seen anyone being called a racist - not good 😢

You missed Scoobie Doo then!
(Amusing! 😆)