You need to ask your baby’s permission before changing his or her nappy….

Deanne Carson does not even understand the old now disliked term 'intersex' which has nothing to do with being transgender, but means somebody with a DSD (difference of sexual development)

I find her pronouncement on 'transgender children' horrifying

Deanne Carson seems to be CEO and only member of Body Safety Australia.

Oreo

I think most Mums talk soothingly to their babies when changing their nappies, to distract them from wriggling about.
Changing baby DGS nappy was a two man operation!😁

True. Sometimes it was soothing chat, sometimes it was of the Why do you have to do this the minute we’re going out?

My children would have regarded the pause Deanne mentions, as a chance to roll, to reach down and get 💩 on their hands or to cry because they objected to the warm, smelly nappy being removed and the cold air hitting the nether regions.
Should I then have wrapped them up and left them in their mess? Of course not.
This coming up again now is another implication that parents cannot parent without the help of Sure Start or similar.

Oh yes, the hands down in the 💩

Always keep a small toy handy as a distraction while you ask permission to clean a bottom - and check to see if you have permission to change every item of clothing too 😁

Dear Poppyred, Poppycock!!!

Absolutely Caleo 👍🏻

Absolute insanity.
Whatever next ?

A far greater danger seems to be that wehavemade children and teenagers too comfortable with their bodies so that they are happy totake photographs ofall or parts of their bodies and send them to other people,includig people they have only mer online. They are then beenthreatened by people that if they do not continue down the exposing oftheir bodies or paying their blackmailers, thepictues will be sent to theirfamily and friends and/or published online. They are told that their 'lives will be ruined'.

When she’d only recently started walking, so around 13/14 months, more than once Gdd2 would go to the ‘nappy cupboard’, take one out and bring it to me.
A clear enough request!

If they got their children toilet trained by the age of one, as we used to do, there would be no need to ask. These ‘babies’ running round with nappies at age 3 are quite disgusting.

nanna8

If they got their children toilet trained by the age of one, as we used to do, there would be no need to ask. These ‘babies’ running round with nappies at age 3 are quite disgusting.

By age one? I didn’t. I waited until they were just 2, having read that they were much better prepared, physiologically speaking, by that age, in that they could recognise the need to ‘go’ and make it to the potty/loo in time.

It took just a week both times.
This was in the late 70s/early 80s.

When I studied child development it seems there is little point in toilet training much below the age of two as the brain connection to the detrusor and sphincter muscles is not sufficiently developed to enable control.

Well it worked for me is all I can say. They were all aged 1 - 1.5 years and they all wanted to be toilet trained all by themselves. Mind you, the bulky cloth nappies that we had to wash probably helped. I also fostered little ones and they were the same. No effort on my part, they just wanted to. Australia has better weather, perhaps that was a factor.

nanna8

Well it worked for me is all I can say. They were all aged 1 - 1.5 years and they all wanted to be toilet trained all by themselves. Mind you, the bulky cloth nappies that we had to wash probably helped. I also fostered little ones and they were the same. No effort on my part, they just wanted to. Australia has better weather, perhaps that was a factor.

My mother said I was clean and dry day and night by 15 months - perhaps having no washing machine helped!

My own were ready later but, surprisingly, DS was the earliest.

Magenta8

When I studied child development it seems there is little point in toilet training much below the age of two as the brain connection to the detrusor and sphincter muscles is not sufficiently developed to enable control.

The pathway in my brain must have been well developed 😁

It was a great incentive when lifting the lid from the nappy bucket first thing in the morning, to crack on with toilet training.
Where is all this going to end? Do they seriously expect a Mum to leave her baby in a stinking nappy for hours on end? Crazy.

So a baby thrashing around and resisting a nappy change is saying "Don't dare touch me, I want to stay in this wet, dirty, stinking nappy all day and get horrible sores on my bottom!".

Has this woman got any children?

I absolutely understand the need to teach children about safeguarding but that is just quite ridiculous.

She might just be encouraging those parents who don’t talk to their children, to do so from early on, in all situations not just nappy changing.
Possibly most of us did, without the distraction of mobile phones. Maybe most parents do now.
Maybe, in our increasingly nanny-state, some parents didn’t know you should do that, without being told that they should.

Is it possible that the rising number of children starting school in nappies is because they’ve been allowed to say no to potty training either at home or at nursery?

I used to say to my babies….”come on, let’s get this stinky nappy changed and put on a nice clean one” but asking permission to do so?????? ………what a load of absolute twaddle!

Is this a serious post? If so its barmy.

I worked with more than one mum who never talked to her baby - and even toddlers, years ago, Mollygo
They didn't know you needed to.
The mums thought there was "no point" because they didn't talk back.

It was desperately sad.
Unfortunately it's not a new thing.
And nothing to do with mobile phones.

With help, the little ones could grow and blossom
🌸

Allsorts

Is this a serious post? If so its barmy.

I think she said it seven years ago, but it’s hit the news again for some reason.

Slow news day,probably. Better than hearing about crime and riots at least 😀

Astitchintime

I used to say to my babies….”come on, let’s get this stinky nappy changed and put on a nice clean one” but asking permission to do so?????? ………what a load of absolute twaddle!

It is about the attitude of the carer towards the child. If the carer believes the child is her own wee person then the carer will transfer that attitude of respect and sympathy if only from the body language.
However nappy changing and bathing are excellent opportunities for the baby to learn the sorts of things that can be said and how to say them.

Why refer to other people’s way of doing things as ‘absolute twaddle’ or ‘barmy’?

Talking to children is neither (IMO), and respecting their boundaries makes perfect sense. I understand that to others it may not, but I read posts about how children ‘belong to’ their parents without feeling the need to rubbish that point of view, even though I find it a troubling way to see the parent/child relationship.

Nobody has said that parents ’have to’ ask permission of babies, and there is not an iota of interference from ‘the state’ on this matter, but it seems that there are those who are so certain that they are right about everything that they can’t accept that anyone else might see things differently and could just possibly have a point.