You need to ask your baby’s permission before changing his or her nappy….

Poppyred

I read in the paper today……

What if Baby refuses permission?

butterandjam

Poppyred

I read in the paper today……

What if Baby refuses permission?

If he refuses and you leave him to lie in it until he gets a sore bottom, you will then be guilty of neglect. A mother's place is in the wrong, whatever she does.

I read an article recently about people who are child-free by choice and it mentioned some people who didn't have children because the baby wouldn't be able to consent to being born ...

I often wonder if those so-called experts have ever had a child? I was told to "reason with" my totally determined and sometimes out of control two year old. I thought, before or after she chucks the coal scuttle at me, or gets squashed by a car? I might as well have tried reasoning with my budgie. Actually, the budgie had more common sense than my daughter did at that age.

I never asked my children's and grandchildren's permission to change their nappies, but I did keep up a running commentary while I did it. It was a good opportunity to bring in new vocabulary.

What utter nonsense.! Whatever next?

My mind wanders over the possible source of this ridiculous nonsense Mail? No surely even that rubbish paper wouldn’t entertain it. I give up.

Deedaa

I never asked my children's and grandchildren's permission to change their nappies, but I did keep up a running commentary while I did it. It was a good opportunity to bring in new vocabulary.

That is what is being suggested. The disparaging headlines are not the reality. The idea is that the child learns that s/he has agency over his or her body, so if anyone does touch them inappropriately they know they can say no, and starting before they can truly understand is just getting them used to it.

I didn't do it with mine (the idea wasn't current then) but I can't see the harm in it.

Utterly ridiculous…is it April 1st already?!

I'm sure at least one of mine would have resisted and refused.
She was awkward with potty training too.
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Poppyred

I read in the paper today……

What paper?🤣 my 6 month old grandaughter can’t talk yet though lets everyone know when she is uncomfortable! Can’t think how she might give permission lol! Is this a wind up?!

It's actually old news.

Should we ask children's permission before we send them off to school?

I have done a lot of personal care for children and adults, I would always always talk to them about what was happening. People do it naturally. I actually can't think of many carers, childcare staff who don't do this.

Galaxy

I have done a lot of personal care for children and adults, I would always always talk to them about what was happening. People do it naturally. I actually can't think of many carers, childcare staff who don't do this.

Yes, I'd always do that anyway.

Galaxy

I have done a lot of personal care for children and adults, I would always always talk to them about what was happening. People do it naturally. I actually can't think of many carers, childcare staff who don't do this.

I always talked to my children about what we were doing, they'd ask why? when verbal. Learning begins with talking. My opinion.

I’ve heard it all now. So sick of the whole woke brigade 🤦‍♀️.
Children belong to the parents, not the state. It should be up to them how they bring up their kids.

Oh darling baby may I have permission to tell you not to put your finger in that hole in the wall
Nooooo
Oh dear I was needing you to say yes it’s very dangerous
Noooooo
Whoosh, bang, whallop, sizzle oh dear

Aussie educator Deanne Carson sparked a huge debate when she appeared on national TV last year and suggested that parents should ask their youngsters 'if it's okay' to change their diaper.
Carson pointed out that the baby (obviously) cannot respond verbally. However, she suggested: “If you leave a space, and wait for body language and wait to make eye contact, then you're letting that child know that their response matters.”

I wonder if it's in reference to this 'expert'? None of my babies did much more than sleep or feed for the first few days and weeks, often sleeping through a nappy change, maybe I should have left them in dirty wet nappies until they could respond positively with eye contact? It's instinctive to talk to your baby while you bathe, dress, cuddle or change a nappy. I didn't conduct conversations while breastfeeding, especially at 3 am, was I a bad mother?

I remember grabbing a wriggly baby and practically pinning him down to change his nappy. No permission given.
Another time, my nephew aged 1, refused to lie down so I managed while he was standing up. His mum was most impressed.
I'll need to remind him of that....

Mt61

I’ve heard it all now. So sick of the whole woke brigade 🤦‍♀️.
Children belong to the parents, not the state. It should be up to them how they bring up their kids.

Children don’t “belong” to anyone.

Teaching consent is hardly “woke”

Galaxy

I have done a lot of personal care for children and adults, I would always always talk to them about what was happening. People do it naturally. I actually can't think of many carers, childcare staff who don't do this.

This isn’t about whether or not you talk to them. It’s about asking their permission before changing their nappy. Utter madness, I think.

Grammaretto

I remember grabbing a wriggly baby and practically pinning him down to change his nappy. No permission given.
Another time, my nephew aged 1, refused to lie down so I managed while he was standing up. His mum was most impressed.
I'll need to remind him of that....

How can a 1 year old child refuse to lie down? If he is calling the shots at that age, heaven help you when he’s older!

The human race is doomed...

Most babies will cry and wriggle and scream if you try to do anything to them that they do not like. Would anyone let a baby or child travel in a car without any safety restraint just becausethey kicked up a fuss?

When we see tv programmes about other societies, large primates, for example, commentators will always talk approvingly about the way the babiess and juveniles are taught to socialise and learn to fit in with wider society and adults. Why does this change when it is human babies?

Talking to a baby while interacting with it is instinctive adult and baby interaction. This is how babies learn to vocalise then speak. Parents or adults who do not chatter to their children are the ones inneedof guidance.