“Shakespeare was a black woman” - now I’ve heard it all!

Sorry, got distracted and my post didn't make sense.

I am inclined to assume the hoofbeats are horses rather than zebras, on balance.
Yes, and the zebras took charge here as facts seem to have been manipulated to suit the theory to achieve the desired result.

Irene Coslet, thank you Basgetti. I will look for reviews about her other books, to see if she can tell a good tale.

This has turned out to be a most interesting Thread.

When we look at our history, so many women took male pseudonyms in order to be taken seriously in literature. Using an actor to play the role would be frankly hilariously clever

I guess it does matter to the tourist industry of Stratford. Could end it all if it wasn't Shakespeare.

The Brontes for example. George Sands.

I can't see any other works by the author. I have googled her in terms of feminism but can't find anything either. Someone else may have more luck.

Maremia

The Brontes for example. George Sands.

George Sands was a pseudonym, the Brontes used pseudonyms, where William Shakespeare (baptised Gulielmus Shakspere) was a real person born in Stratford-upon-Avon.

Galaxy

I can't see any other works by the author. I have googled her in terms of feminism but can't find anything either. Someone else may have more luck.

She is a feminist and perhaps finds it unbearable that a white man did in fact write all those enduring plays and sonnets. In fact she does feminism a disservice.

If I was judged on my signature I could well be taken as a semi-literate uncertain how to spell my own name. With lack of use due to the gradual disappearance of cheques, it is getting even worse.

grumppa

If I was judged on my signature I could well be taken as a semi-literate uncertain how to spell my own name. With lack of use due to the gradual disappearance of cheques, it is getting even worse.

arthritis in my right hand has made my writing even worse than it was originally and that was bad enough.

grumppa

If I was judged on my signature I could well be taken as a semi-literate uncertain how to spell my own name. With lack of use due to the gradual disappearance of cheques, it is getting even worse.

My DD, who is an English lecturer, has an illegible signature!

My writing is getting worse and worse too.

SueDonim

Aveline

Allira I wasn't talking about any particular book or author. I know there must be long histories stories and forms of drama passed down by people of African origin. Why are these not written about and dramatised? Why the focus on inserting black people into white dramas?

As I understand it, some Black peoples didn’t have any form of written recording, so apart from passing it down orally, there would be no easy way to disseminate their culture such as the West had when writing and then printing press, especially, was invented.

In Nigeria, where I lived for five years, their own traditional culture continues as it did in the past, with various celebrations, gatherings and rituals and so on. There’s an event dedicated to Osun, the Yoruba goddess of fertility, a fishing festival, durbars with horses, the celebrate Islamic holidays, the yam festival, to give thanks for the harvest, and the Eyo festival, a drama performance with masked players. That’s just a few of their events.

They are spectacular events and it would be wonderful if they were more widely known to the world. It’s not for a white westerner to interpret them, of course. Maybe they prefer to keep their culture to themselves, though.

It's not for black people to determine our culture either. Replacing historical figures with black people does just that. It seems like they would rather project themselves onto ours, rather than showing us theirs.
Perhaps we'd like to keep our culture to ourselves. How about that??

Black people are often not acknowledged like Alexander Dumas.

Well, perhaps acknowledging that he was mixed race - one quarter black heritage and three quarters white heritage might be the most honest way forward.

Allira

Well, perhaps acknowledging that he was mixed race - one quarter black heritage and three quarters white heritage might be the most honest way forward.

As a black man my husband says
If slaver owners would consider him black
If the miscegenation laws in the US would have considered him black until well into his 20s he's entitled to say he's black regardless of what white people say.

I have to say I was torn until I questioned how my GS was treated as a new born because although pretty light skinned he didn't fit the assessment of how he "should" look. I got very tiger granny.

Also the very obvious discrimination of one of my mixed race children.

If it can be used against you claim it and be proud.

I forgot the one drop rule, goes much further than 25%

👏 🥰

Thanks Freya, I had forgotten about Sue's interesting details, from when she was abroad, and had meant to ask about them. Now I can.

It must be galling, when only certain 'types' get to frame and/or name your heritage.

I will make a mad guess and say that some of the Posters probably did not enjoy the very popular and successful Regency TV drama Bridgerton.

But nowadays the only truth that exists is the individual truth, So if the author of this book thinks Shakespeare was a black woman then she is absolutely right. If I din't. I too am absolutely right.

It means that ClareAB's statement Considering White Male Supremacists have been domination the world forever, I think it's entirely possible

On the other hand looking back through time, there have been empires in all aparts of the world, Chinese, Mongol, Hun's Vikings, Aztec, Inca, many in Afric whose names I do not know. My truth tells me that the current fashion for wwhite empiricists, is , as the measurement of time goes, only a passing phase

All empires regardless of colour, race, religion, or geographical location act in exactly the same way, they conuer, they dominate, the make the conquered people submerge their culture to the dominant culture. Nothing uniquely good or bad about recent empires, they have always acted as empires do.

Whatever your nationality or origins, you come from a group that have had empires in the past or will have empires in he future and they have been and will be no different from any other in imposing their language, culture and religion on their subjected people

Allira

^He probably sounded like Ozzy^ 😁

Probably not. It's a different accent.
As is mine.

Yes, apologies. More like Ozzy than the King though, I expect.

Basgetti

Allira

He probably sounded like Ozzy 😁

Probably not. It's a different accent.
As is mine.

Yes, apologies. More like Ozzy than the King though, I expect.

Probably bit more like Gloucestershire back in those days! The accent was different, rural.

I wonder what Queen Elizabeth I sounded like?

Hahaha 😝