Where's CariadAgain? 🤔

I am sort of arguing on both sides of the fence doodledog which is confusing even for me! But that is because how to manage this kind of thing is complex, and as you can tell I find it vaguely fascinating.

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Galaxy

I am not sure it is as simple as legality though is it.
Say for example every time I posted someone said 'I loathe Galaxy, she is vile'. I am not sure that breaks the law but it would be particularly unpleasant ( especially for me )

But it would constitute a personal attack, therefore breach Talk Guidelines and should be deleted. If somone were to do that repeatedly, then the moderators have the discretion to ban the offender.

The guidelines are clear:

... where necessary, we will use our discretion to delete posts (or ban posters).

We do have a few forum rules to make sure we keep Talk a good place to hang out:

• No personal attacks

• No posts that break the law, including hate speech of any kind

• No trolling, misleading or deliberately inflammatory behaviour

• No trollhunting

• No spamming

We'll remove posts we consider to contain personal attacks, to break the law and/or to be obscene, racist, sexist, disablist, ageist, homophobic or transphobic, once they are brought to our attention. We will also delete any posts that we think are just seriously unpleasant (please note that any subsequent posts repeating the words in the deleted post may be removed also).

Please note the guidelines say "we consider". The 'we' in question is the owner of the website. They have the right, as the owner , to dictate who says what.

I feel that the owner is less tolerant than I .However as long as I use Gransnet I must abide by her rules.

I was told that because I had my hair done a week before covid "I would look good in my coffin. The poster was also very nasty to me. Ivcsn take posters disagreeing with me but this went too far. If this poster is still here under a different name shame on you.
The mods did nothing about that. At first I was upset, but I just thought what a lonely spiteful person you are. This is the polite version. Alot of posters said I was being bullied by PM.
I do not report unless a person is racist, or have been unesarily nasty to another poster. Even then I think twice as reporting does not sit well with me.
Carried again has not offended me but maybe I missed posts that caused upset.
I always read every post as to me all posters are equal.

The disappearance could be due to serious misleading medical statements which I remember in this case.

Galaxy

Yes I know the forum rules. I have been on both sites for 20 years.

Which 2 sites? GN hasn't been going 20 years.

I was told that because I had my hair done a week before covid "I would look good in my coffin.

😲 that is unforgivable.

How horrible. What was so wrong about having your hair done.

Comments like the one rafiagran was subjected to are the ones I understand being reported, though I can see the positives in letting it stand to show the poster as they are.

A couple of years ago, I was locked out of gransnet due to a technical issue. Gnet hq were good but what really helped was the number of posters who kept up a campaign to let me back. I’ve never forgotten how much this meant

My politics (no surprise) weren’t those of GSM or more recently Carriad but I can’t see any reason for banning

I remember your lockout, Iam. It took ages to get it sorted out.

I don't remember the comment to rafichagran, but a lot of people were a bit bonkers during Covid - a combination of fear and loneliness probably. Maybe it was that which prompted the comment?

I agree with you about both GSM and Cariad. I can only remember one poster who I think deserved to be banned, and she seemed to be Teflon for ages. I have never known anyone cause so much trouble, and she had already been banned and allowed back. That was a mystery, but apart from her, I can't think of anyone.

There are/have been people I would probably put on ignore, if we had the ability to do so, just as there are people in any group that I wouldn't go out of my way to mix with, but I think that GN as a whole needs to have a mix of personalities and opinions. It has to, as I'm sure we would all choose different people if we could select from the membership list .

I meant between the two sites kittylester, I started on MN I think in 2004? then moved over here.

"I don't remember the comment to rafichagran, but a lot of people were a bit bonkers during Covid - a combination of fear and loneliness probably. Maybe it was that which prompted the comment?"

I take your point Doodledog but that comment stuck with me. I still become irrationally angry about it.

I knew someone change character completely during covid. A normally strong woman who became very frightened. So while I see the point above the comment still makes me angry.

Not irrational at all. I would have been annoyed too - it was a horrible thing to say, and I'm not minimising it.

It was a nasty thing to say. Is that Poster still on GN?

I take your point Doodledog but that comment stuck with me. I still become irrationally angry about it.

Don't carry it with you rafichagran, it was her remark and she owns it not you.

A poster made a shocking and unfounded attack on me and I did report her post. It was deleted but she is still on here.
I can laugh about it now because she must have got totally mixed up (it can happen to anyone) but she never apologised and even if I wasn't the intended victim, it would have been nasty anyway.

Maremia

It was a nasty thing to say. Is that Poster still on GN?

I have not seen this poster comment for a long time. I can't say she is not posting because for various reasons posters name change.

If I had made a mistake or mixed you up with someone else Allira I would have apologised, that is her bad manners. As you said though it was still nasty.
There are alot of lovely posters though and I enjoy there posts and stories. I like hearing about the interesting lives of some.

rafichagran

If I had made a mistake or mixed you up with someone else Allira I would have apologised, that is her bad manners. As you said though it was still nasty.
There are alot of lovely posters though and I enjoy there posts and stories. I like hearing about the interesting lives of some.

It was quite shocking but then I realised how ludicrous it was 😀

Gransnet was a lot more normal than mumsnet during covid

Some time ago I had a post deleted because someone had influenced a moderator who judged it to be "antisemitic."

I blame myself for failing to make sufficiently clear my point of view. However the moderator should not have been so high-handed and should have given me ----or anyone-----an opportunity to elucidate.

Allira

rafichagran

If I had made a mistake or mixed you up with someone else Allira I would have apologised, that is her bad manners. As you said though it was still nasty.
There are alot of lovely posters though and I enjoy there posts and stories. I like hearing about the interesting lives of some.

It was quite shocking but then I realised how ludicrous it was 😀

It is indeed ludicrous to insult persons online, unless they are figures in the public eye. Private persons such as posters to Gransnet are knowable only from our posts and it is absurd to abuse actual persons.

However I think the more important reason for personally abusive posts to be disallowed is that if such posts proliferated Gransnet would cease to interest normal posters and would loose revenue.

Allira

^I was told that because I had my hair done a week before covid "I would look good in my coffin.^

😲 that is unforgivable.

It's a little depressing but hardly abusive surely? I too will be in a coffin some day.

The poster seems not to have made her point very well if that is all her post contained, As it stands it seems to me to be an poor attempt at a joke.

Caleo

Some time ago I had a post deleted because someone had influenced a moderator who judged it to be "antisemitic."

I blame myself for failing to make sufficiently clear my point of view. However the moderator should not have been so high-handed and should have given me ----or anyone-----an opportunity to elucidate.

I'm intrigued as to how someone can influence a mod?
And why you felt the need to put antisemitic in inverted commas?

You're absolutely right in that perhaps you didn't make yourself sufficiently clear. Because generally, when people make discriminatory remarks and they are pulled up about them, "not making myself sufficiently clear" is a frequently used "explanation".

Always wise to err on the side of caution and check your wording when you're dealing with a subject that could so easily make you look like a racist or similar.

Caleo, I don’t see how a moderator could be influenced to judge a post as anti semitic. There is a clear legal definition of anti semitism.

Trust me Caleo I did not find it funny and I fail to see the joke. Maybe you have no respect fir others feelings

Allira
Nobody apologised to me 😥 when I was suspended for being rude to a BOT.
Not even when the BOT was cast off to wherever BOTS are sent.
I’ll get over it though 😂