Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

Chocolatelovinggran

I am a Republican, so do not feel able to comment, usually, on threads about the royal family.
However, I do feel sadness for the little children of this couple.
My understanding is that they are estranged from the families on both sides.
This situation means that they do not enjoy what many children do - the fun of big and little cousins, the interest of aunts, uncles, and grandparents.
My GC, like so many others, tell the wider family about their school report, demonstrate their prowess on the trumpet, perform their dances, etc etc.
Some of this happens via a video link, as some live away, but all receive lots of praise and enthusiasm from us all .
Mine love to hear tales of their parents' childhood escapades, especially the naughty ones ...
What a loss for these children.

Absolutely. Used as pawns in H&M's game. I wonder how these 2 children may react when they are old enough to ask questions and make their own decisions on who they see and where they go. To be denied a relationship, albeit a distant one, with their grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins is very cruel.

The thing is, though, they won't know anything else.

I didn't know my cousins and have never missed them.

Just a thought.
Their situation is entirely normal for them.
I don't feel I missed anything as unless you see cousins regularly you are pretty distant as children

It's as normal for H and M's children not to have a relationship with their royal cousins as it is for their royal cousins, ie William's children, not to have a relationship with H and M's children.

Cousin relationships are not the only relationships children have. They will make local friends which increasingly over the years will be of great importance and we know from our own teenage years. It's a loss both ways as a result of estrangement. Both parents will rationalise the situation, as they see it, and explain to their children accordingly.

I saw my cousins infrequently after my Mum and Dad moved away from Manchester 'down south'.

Distance and living on 2 continents would have impacted anyway and estrangement adds an. extra distance layer.

If my 2 AC passed their cousins in the street they would not know them.
In many families such relationships are not unusual.
It is not that we didn’t speak to my H’s siblings , if we met at family occasions, which were infrequent, we were fine but we had very little in common with them and their children.

I have far too many cousins (from a catholic background )...about 28. I only see 2 of them as the rest are very far from me both geographically and politically....happily never see them again!

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I noticed that the responses to my comments on relationships between cousins, aunts, and uncles all seemed to refer to childhoods in the past
Is it true for our GC that they don't have any knowledge of their cousins?
The joy of modern communications is that we can see and engage with each other, even those of us who live many miles away.

My daughter's boys and their cousins on the dad's side see each other every couple of years.
They aren't in touch in-between though the parents and grandparents are.

We have three "lots" of grandchildren and their relationships with their cousins varies a lot it seems to me.

Yes, H&M’s children have no relationship with Meghan’s family as well as the Royals, apart from Granny Doria of course.

Whereas the Royal children see Zara’s family and Peter Phillips’ children, some of whom are similar ages. You see Charlotte and Mia Tindall chatting away together at the Christmas Day church service.

And I’m sure they see a lot of Pippa Middleton’s children.

I think I can guess which side has a more ‘rounded’ view of family.

We don't even know if there are any cousins on Meghan's side!!

Meghan's sister Samantha has three children and her brother Thomas has two.

I expect the UK royal children also see something of Eugenie and Beatrice's children now and again.

NotSpaghetti

I expect the UK royal children also see something of Eugenie and Beatrice's children now and again.

Bit younger though for George and Charlotte, especially Beatrice’s

Bit nearer age wise for Louis.

My younger GC love the " cool" teenager". He is especially taken with the new baby.
I did refer also, in my post , to the role of aunts and uncles. They, too, admire the growth of the baby, applaud the trumpet playing, are impressed by end of term school reports, etc.
I would wish these other interested adults in the life of all children, especially if they can tell a scurrilous tale about some behaviours of the child's parent from the past..

Calendargirl

Why all the drama?

If, and it’s a big ‘if’, they do all come, why do we need to hear so much about it?

They could fly in discreetly, go to whichever ‘royal’ accommodation they have been offered, Harry could do his Invictus business (on his own, nothing that requires Meg’s involvement as the actual event is still a whole year away), the King could meet the family privately if that’s what he wants to do, then they could all fly back to California and it could then be reported on the news.

All this pre visit nonsense will have been released by the Sussexes.

In the aftermath of the meet up between the King, Queen, Harry, Meghan and family, I am quoting my post of a few days ago.

Apart from the royal accommodation, this is exactly how it all played out in the end.

Why could it all have not happened like this in the first place, I wonder?

The failed court case comes to mind. Perhaps even Meghan is coming to realise they need the Royals far more than the Royals need them?

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

Luckygirl3

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

I agree -

So they need to stop being twats, apologise to the RF and all the people whose privacy H abused in his book and then they might be in less danger (of being laughed atand booed)
What a bad example they've set for their children...

MarieElla

So they need to stop being twats, apologise to the RF and all the people whose privacy H abused in his book and then they might be in less danger (of being laughed atand booed)
What a bad example they've set for their children...

This is exactly why they are right to be concrrned about security.

The level of nasty cruel aggressive comments about H and M is awful

Luckygirl3

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

That was me.

Ironically I think it is a worse situation for them now, then it was before.