Father Christmas aka Santa is not real. He was pretend real when you took your children to Carol Concerts and dressed them for their Nativity plays. He was an echo of saint Nicholas and was cute when the reason for the season was the baby Jesus. But now that you have cancelled God and Halloween is about celebrating evil and witchcraft rather than remembering those people who have died following Jesus- no, santa claus is not real. He is a delusion, an outright lie. You deny the truth of Jesus Christ and worship santa instead. You are lying to your grandchildren. So there.
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Couldn’t Father Christmas help?
(89 Posts)I had a thought, that if Father Christmas did an advert…..
Saying he was having to cut back this year like everyone else!
He could suggest the idea of fewer presents… just 3 gifts!
something they want…
Something they need…..
And something to read…
If Santa suggested it, it could save parents a fortune
And the pressure of paying for it for the foreseeable future!
<faints>
Great thread!!! Has reminded me that my middle son was afraid of Father Christmas coming down the chimney so we had to leave him a note asking him to leave presents in the porch, which he obligingly did. (The strangest thing is that my son's daughter is afraid of the tooth fairy - who really does exist - and although she's seven had never left a tooth under her pillow!)
Moi? Telling porkies to the next generation then eating pigs in blankets? 🐖
What next? Are you about to tell us the tooth fairy doesn’t exist? 🧚
Hahaha, liar, liar, your pants are on fire - he is r....., everyone knows that, he's endorsed by Disney
X post Mizuna. Thanks for affirming TTF is real otherwise I’d have had to get out the magic carpet to use on my quest for smelling salts.
Snap Nannagarra! And to think people don't believe in the tooth fairy... Tut.
GrammyGrammy
Father Christmas aka Santa is not real. He was pretend real when you took your children to Carol Concerts and dressed them for their Nativity plays. He was an echo of saint Nicholas and was cute when the reason for the season was the baby Jesus. But now that you have cancelled God and Halloween is about celebrating evil and witchcraft rather than remembering those people who have died following Jesus- no, santa claus is not real. He is a delusion, an outright lie. You deny the truth of Jesus Christ and worship santa instead. You are lying to your grandchildren. So there.
What are you talking about the evidence is there from before Christian times They hijacked Yule tide so the faithful converts would still have some fun and stay converted.
There is no evidence in the Bible for when Jesus was born, we were told in O level it was probably 4 B.C. calculating on the reign of Herod in Judea.
The biggest bit of magic is a Virgin birth has never been one before or since, lots have tried it on though never believed.
What a killjoy I'm glad I'm not part of your family.
Santa is coming to my house and I'm leaving him his mince pie.
Who wouldn't like to be 30 years younger and have a mysterious man come down the chimney with "Presents" my name would be top of the list.
Galaxy
I dont know how to tell you this but hes not r...
Nope cant bring myself to do it
I don't know who on earth told you that Galaxy but you are perfectly mistaken. Someone will be along soon asking for reliable evidence and a link to the peer reviewed article.
P.S.I have a sign that hangs beneath the Christmas wreath on my front door which reads
"This House Believes"
And it does.
GrannyLaine 👏 the voice of reason
Yay, Yammy!
Lots have tried it on with the Virgin birth!
🤣🤣🤣
Actually I’d have to take off more than 30 years before a mysterious man would appear down the chimney with a present for me…
They seem to expect an awful lot. They'll compare what they got, where they went and what they did with all their little greedy friends. Their parents will feel obliged to 'keep up with the Jones's', have a brilliant day (at any cost) - and will max out their credit cards and overdrafts to do it (then compare with their friends by posting online)
Never read anything so ridiculous, sure there are families like this, but not that many and I have never come across them. There are many more families where parents are struggling to buy even one present.
Even more parents above the poverty level are reducing their expenditure this year and their children know and understand.
I am buying more presents than usual from charity shops and secondhand book shops.
Huh? FC isn’t re……? Who puts money into our bank account each month, then, if it isn’t FC?
Speaking of virgin births, my mother has a story about a friend of hers. During the war, the friend had a boyfriend who started to get a bit ‘keen’ one evening. He asked the friend if she was a virgin and she said no, she wasn’t. He then made a more…ahem…intimate move and she started screaming. He stopped and asked her what on Earth was wrong.
She said that she didn’t know what he was doing and was scared. He said ‘But you just said you’re not a virgin, you must know what happens.’ She said she’d no idea what he was going on about but she firmly denied that she could be a virgin because unlike the Virgin Mary, she didn’t have a baby!
Poor girl, her mum had never told her the facts of life. Once her boyfriend realised this, he spent the rest of the evening enlightening her as to the birds and bees.
For all you who would deny his existence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_Virginia,_there_is_a_Santa_Claus
He definitely left 'snowy footprints' when my children were young.
While we’re on the subject of Father Christmas 🎅🏻, I have it on very good authority that there’s something he’d like to make clear. When visiting anywhere in the U.K. on perishing Christmas Eves, he really does not want the (cold) ‘milk and cookies’ Americans seem to think suitable, which have very regrettably started to catch on on this side of the pond.
He would much prefer the traditional Brit offerings of a generous tot of something warming (whisky, brandy, rum, sherry at a pinch) and a mince pie or two. Who in their right mind honestly wants cold milk when it’s brass monkey weather and you’ve got to work all night?
And BTW, for anyone worried about him being drunk in charge of a sleigh, he’d also like me to point out that he’s MAGIC and can put away as many warming tots as he likes, without it affecting his driving.
Just so that’s all clear - many thanks on his behalf. 🎅🏻🎄
And don’t forget a carrot for Rudolf! 🥕
Witzend, you'll be pleased to know we always leave whisky and a brandy enriched mince pie for Father Christmas. Rudolph always gets a tasty carrot. 
GrammyGrammy
According to a vicar we know, he is not real 😲
Said vicar even told reception class that it wasn't FC, it was your p........
After a teacher washed his mouth out with soap, he went back and said he got it wrong
🤶
Yes, Witzend most people leave mine pies and a tot, that's why he gets round in record time.
Some people have seen him going across the sky in person..
Definitely mince pies, sherry along with carrots for the reindeers in this house.
Father Christmas devours the lot and leaves soot on the carpet between the fireplace and Christmas Tree 🤬🎄🎁
kittylester
Never ming GN, what about the broken grans who probably haven't even put the sprouts on yet.
Oh, I'm pleased you reminded me. I haven't boiled mine yet, and there is only 6 weeks or so. Do you think I could finish them off in the microwave if they aren't done on time?
Well I think you'd better Doodle honestly what were you thinking
were you really expecting you guests to eat sprouts that weren't properly cooked!!!
Hetty58
Oh, but they have (ever increasing) expectations, don't they? They seem to expect an awful lot. They'll compare what they got, where they went and what they did with all their little greedy friends. Their parents will feel obliged to 'keep up with the Jones's', have a brilliant day (at any cost) - and will max out their credit cards and overdrafts to do it (then compare with their friends by posting online). (What we had was a stocking, a gift from Father Christmas, another from our parents - and a nice dinner. Anything from aunts etc. was a bonus - but never expected.)
ThAts rather a depressing post. Not every family is like that.
FannyCornforth
And don’t forget a carrot for Rudolf! 🥕
The reindeer visiting dd’s house have been known to leave very messy chewed up scraps of carrots around the plate where we left the carrots. Shocking behaviour! But as I said to Gdcs last Christmas morning, at least they didn’t poo in the garden.
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