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Plea from a mum (not me, shared with me by a friend)

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GagaJo Sat 21-Mar-20 22:32:01

Coronavirus is NOT a joke. Please stop brushing it under the carpet and putting not only your own lives at risk but everyone else's just because you want to go to the pub, or to a restaurant or think you need 7 packs of 24 toilet rolls- god knows why ??‍♀️

As a Covid-19 positive household I've seen the effects it has. I've had to watch my 5yr old son go from having all the energy in the world to not moving, not eating, hardly drinking or urinating. His temperature wouldn't go below the 40's and at its highest was 42.3 which caused vomiting, I watched him hallucinating and crying from the headache, being taken to hospital by ambulance to be put in isolation pods and be swapped for the virus and confirmed positive. He lay in the hospital bed and asked me if he was going to die - as a mother that is heartbreaking ?? his blood sugar levels were only 3.7, his respiratory rate was 18-20 and his heart rate was 180, the sweat was pouring out of him but he was shivering, he was panting for breath and he had photophobia.

As his mom and not being able to do anything for him has been one of the worst experiences of my life. So please, just stay in for a little while, so what if you can't do all your normal things, the sooner everybody does social distancing, the sooner it will be over.

I am not posting this for attention or sympathy, as I could of done that the day he got sick, I just want people to stay safe. Please think of your health and others ❤️

MaCartney33 Sun 22-Mar-20 18:56:01

I am new to Gransnet and after reading the responses I am horrified and ashamed to think women of my generation could be so malicious and vindictive. In a world in crisis we should be supporting each other and doing our very best to be considerate and helpful to each other. Monica be kind and you will be a happier person for it.

Guineagirl Sun 22-Mar-20 19:03:49

Eloethan, some people like you are brilliantly articulate, I’m not but that’s just what I think. I go out as ive said before every day for the last eleven years on bike 80 miles upwards per week. It has helped my joints, muscles, depression, and untold heart benefits and I will continue I cycle down a lane where no cars go and is a hard incline so families don’t go. I just hope people behave as the government will stop this been allowed and all the hard work my body will de condition so bad I’m as worried of this as the virus itself.

Flowerofthewest Sun 22-Mar-20 19:15:38

MONICA. How downright nasty. Are you really so bitter to make such comments.

Summerlove Sun 22-Mar-20 19:19:43

I am not saying the threat is not real but I think most older people are very aware of how to cope and be responsible.

You should read the posts on mumsnet from all of the 30/40/50 somethings who are terrified that their parents are not actually taking this seriously and still living life as normal.

Not everybody is taking this seriously. Across all age groups.

dorcas1950 Sun 22-Mar-20 19:26:13

I agree with MOnica.

Xrgran Sun 22-Mar-20 19:29:42

Not many people are taking this seriously and my 82year old mother allows her daughter to visit every day without any precautions and a daughter who believes this is just hype????

Haydnpat Sun 22-Mar-20 19:30:02

Well said dizzyblonde

GrandmaMia1 Sun 22-Mar-20 19:34:27

Don’t you people have anything else to do but bitch about a post? Shame the energy isn’t put to better use.

M0nica Sun 22-Mar-20 19:40:37

Well, I know no-one who is not taking it very seriously indeed and following all the guidelines the government and Public Health England have laid down.

Flowerofthewest What a ridiculous thing to say, you have no idea how happy I am or whether there is any room for more happiness. I am not remotely bitter but I am practical and pragmatic and refuse to join in the hysteria that is gripping some people and I dislike emotional blackmail and will not succumb to it.

MerylStreep Sun 22-Mar-20 19:45:40

GrandmaMial
I'm afraid your missing the point which MOnica pointed out very quickly. The point being that the vast majority of posters aren't brushing it under the carpet
The OP is a regular poster on GN so 'we' know that she reads most of the posts. She knows how the vast majority of us feel. She doesn't need to ram it down our throats.
Have a look on FB. This 'moms' post has been taken down.
I wonder why?

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 19:47:28

Flowerofthewest I was surprised to read your post, you are normally very kind.

I do think hat M0nica is very sensible - I may not always agree with her posts but I do on this occasion.

We should follow guidelines and that is what she says she is doing. However, if we need to do more to protect ourselves, that is fine for those who may be very vulnerable or to protect others near us.

Merryweather Sun 22-Mar-20 19:50:19

For gods sake
Just satay inside your own homes as you have been told to do!
Walk around your fard

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 19:50:42

Xrgran time for you to give them a reality check! Will they listen? Facts and figures and advice from the CMO and CSO may persuade them

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 19:51:28

Merryweather
I know that's a typo but it made me laugh!!

Jaxie Sun 22-Mar-20 19:53:41

Let’s stop sniping at one another: if Gransnetters make insensitive comments we have to conclude they are prisoners to an uncompassionate outlook that means they have probably been disappointed and their responses warped by the treatment they have received from others in the past. Such people are hard to like, but we have to try. I’m not a holy jo preacher either, just someone very grateful for the kindnesses shown to me, a very critical person by nature. ( Dreadful syntax but written from the heart.).

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 19:53:41

No, we haven't been told to stay in our own homes, only the very vulnerable and advised for over 70s
Some people have to work.

Chewbacca Sun 22-Mar-20 19:54:31

It made me laugh too Callistemon! grin

Merryweather Sun 22-Mar-20 19:54:35

Your garden with tinned good as wrights to alternate lifting. Do yoga or Pilates there’s plenty on you tube. Do inking crosswords or play chess.
There’s no need to go out every day!
We’ve all been told to stay in so why are so many ignoring the advice. The government will make us do it if you don’t voluntarily isolate and stay in!

GrandmaMia1 Sun 22-Mar-20 19:54:38

I am not wasting anymore of my time on this. Stay safe everyone.

Merryweather Sun 22-Mar-20 19:56:13

Sorry @carllistemon. Fat pregnancy fingers and brain to boot. 15 days! Not that I’m counting or anything.

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 19:58:17

Don't apologise, I thought it was funny smile

Take care, I know you will, but please take extra care Merryweather

Trewdie Sun 22-Mar-20 20:03:19

Whether you believe it or not or if you agree to the posting or not its bringing it back to us to self isolate or social distance we know we are not the culprits who are ignoring advice but let's face it there are people who are and its as always the innocent who suffer so maybe if people put out posts like this then we might shame those who think their immune or are too selfish to care into listening

Merryweather Sun 22-Mar-20 20:06:55

Yeah I laughed too.
I’m going to be getting a letter next week as I have other health conditions which mean I’m in that very vulnerable category.
Thank you. I hope everyone stays safe and stays in their homes. There’s a wealth of exercise on you tube to have a go at in the house. We can all Skype too. There’s no need to feel isolated, bored or lonely. Have a coffee morning via Skype adding all your friends together.

Tillybelle Sun 22-Mar-20 20:12:31

MaCartney33 Welcome to GN,
I am sorry you are upset. I really think you have misunderstood what people have said. MOnica has been writing since before I joined and she is never malicious or vindictive. She is highly intelligent and has a very good memory. She writes directly to the point and always explains her point.

I can see that you have been affected by the terribly sad story of this little boy. The point that some of us want to make is that this story shows obvious signs of not being what it makes out to be, I wrote about this as did others, The pictures too are quite wrong and expose a lot of doubts about what is said.

The person who first wrote this piece and posted the pictures is simply attempting an emotional manipulation of those reading it and to arouse feelings of hate and anger against people. She probably has no idea that this is not appropriate or is unethical. She wants the attention and she got that in droves. I found it most hurtful that a GN member felt it needed to be directed towards us on GN by posting it here.

There are many clues that the story is not as factual as you, with your big heart, have taken it to be. Sometimes in the media and more often in the social media there are people who want attention and drama. They post things with the aim of garnering many emotional responses. They exaggerate, are not careful about the facts and do not think of the ethical implications of the photographs, here of a child, in particular a sick child.

Because you have a very soft heart and have been deeply moved by this story, please do not judge those who have experience and knowledge that has allowed them to see this article as it is, a manipulation attempt on emotions with many very dubious claims about medical issues. Also it is lambasting us all as if we are recklessly flouting all the social distancing rules, (or suggestions in the UK,) when we are clearly a group who are, to a very high percentage, doing everything we possibly can to follow the guide lines concerning not going out and so on. It was very hurtful for me to read this, as I said earlier.

I could research MOnica's posts on many other threads and you would see she is a very compassionate and thoughtful person. She does not simply make emotional noises, she always tries to give constructive, practical and positive help to people, which is far more valuable. She is very wise with a store of knowledge which has helped so many people over the years.

I am sure you have misunderstood MOnica's viewpoints, maybe because the story of the child distressed you so much. But please do not tell her to "be kind" because that implies such an erroneous and hurtful judgement on her and is totally inappropriate to someone who has a sharp mind coupled with a very generous heart. If MOnica saw something you cannot see then please show her some respect for her astute mind. To be accurate is going to be very important in dealing with the COVID-19 virus. Scare stories filled with lies from mothers looking for attention who do not put the needs of their child first are not going to help anybody.

On GN there is a tradition that if someone sees something a different way from you, we respect their different viewpoint. They may be more experienced. We do not use their name to say bad things about them or imply that they are mean or stupid or anything unkind. You can say you do not understand their point of view which sounded harsh for example. But you should be able to give more explanation as to why it sounded harsh or whatever your criticism may be.

Sometimes in the past things have become heated. But the thing about GN is that we never give up trying to see the point of view of others, help them as needed and then the most wonderful part is when someone you once thought you did not get along with, becomes a very solid, caring and helpful friend! Whatever you do, do not take this first experience as typical. Hang in here. You will find many friends!

I sincerely hope you can take my words positively. I'd hate it if you stopped coming on GN. Maybe now is such a difficult time we are all very sensitive. I am sure you meant well and I do hope you understand why I have written back to explain things.

I do hope you are getting through this 'virus-age' as comfortably as possible. Wishing you all the best of good luck and hoping you have the supplies you need from the shops. Best wishes, Elle x

Callistemon Sun 22-Mar-20 20:19:29

Tillybelle
Such a thoughtful post, well said.

I felt that the pictures in the OP were more about the mother seeking attention for some reason rather than the child's welfare.
If he is very ill, I do hope he does make a full recovery, but there are many doubts about the authenticity of this.

We do not need to be told what we should be doing by the OP who has put her own family at risk, in my opinion.