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phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 08:55:10

Hello all,

I had an email from one of our mature students who is lodging with a couple locally while on a 1 year course.

Last week her hosts took in 2 family members from London, and have said there will be another 4 adults plus some children arriving this week! shock

Surely this is against all guidance?

There are restrictions in place regarding the amount of items that can be bought when shopping, so putting an additional 6 adults and some children in the house will mean extra shopping trips, increasing the chances of coming into contact with the virus?I

The local police have been stopping drivers in some places and asking the reason for their journey. A couple in a motorhome who had come from Birmingham were told to return there, and not to even think of staying in Devon.

This student has come from France, and told me that there police are stopping people, checking their paper and if they are more than 1k from home, they are given an on the spot fine of €135.

FarNorth Tue 31-Mar-20 20:40:07

The student must be terrified, rightly.

phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 20:26:49

wellbeck is it actually possible to get to France?

The academic year doesn't apply, and although we are offering some online "lectures" the course is very definitely practical!

welbeck Tue 31-Mar-20 20:21:16

could the student go home to france.
it is unlikely that there will be any more face to face teaching this academic year.
perhaps the course could continue by internet, unless it's practical.
i think the lodger should get out of there.
if that is their attitude to the rules, what else are they ignoring.
student is in a risky situation among them.

eazybee Tue 31-Mar-20 19:34:40

You know the situation now, so either you report them or you are complicit in allowing these six people to break the law and put local residents' lives at risk.
You don't have a choice.

growstuff Tue 31-Mar-20 18:28:57

I see what you mean. That's difficult :-(

I don't even know if the police could/would do anything. They'd probably give them all advice on self-isolating. I feel sorry for the lodger being exposed to all those people.

phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 16:50:17

My understanding is that the ones due to arrive are family members.

growstuff I'm not saying they WOULD throw her out, but if they had a visit from the police or whoever, it would probably be pretty obvious who had contacted them, due to the location of the house.

growstuff Tue 31-Mar-20 16:12:56

Why would they chuck the lodger out?

growstuff Tue 31-Mar-20 16:12:12

Apart from the student, are the others all family members?

I agree that it's against the spirit of the legislation, but I'm unsure about whether she's running a boarding house.

It's perfectly legitimate to have student lodgers and. if they're paying below a certain amount for board and lodging, you don't have to pay tax.

Having so many people under one roof is asking for trouble. Are they all self-isolating? To be honest, if they're all family and friends, I'm not sure that reporting them would achieve anything.

I'm more concerned about others who permanently live in bedsits and the homeless.

phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 15:50:21

That would be difficult, SalsaQueen. If action was taken, they might put 2 and 2 together, blame the lodger (who has been there since November, NOT a new arrival) and chuck her out!

SalsaQueen Tue 31-Mar-20 14:27:21

Yes, it IS against the rules. In effect, that person is running a boarding-house. Report them.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 14:24:10

Also the sale of firearms has increased there which is a worrying prospect.

Well its early days but beginning to look like muggings, stabbings and burglaries are going up here too... if I did live somewhere with easier gun ownership, now might be the time to start thinking about it..

Greeneyedgirl Tue 31-Mar-20 14:01:16

I suppose until some people know relatives, friends and neighbours who become seriously ill or die they will not take it seriously.
A sombre way of reminding to keep social distance is to imagine the outline of a dead relative between you and the person you are interacting with!

EllanVannin Tue 31-Mar-20 14:00:15

My poor GS is still working---food industry to help keep supermarkets supplied but is unhappy as the place had accepted about a dozen Romanians who he doesn't believe were tested.

EllanVannin Tue 31-Mar-20 13:57:47

Western Australian police will be using electronic tagging for those flouting the law. They mean business !
It's ridiculous in some places there where people are continuing to visit Bondi and local parks, in groups.
Also the sale of firearms has increased there which is a worrying prospect.

growstuff Tue 31-Mar-20 13:55:16

Students returning to the family home is currently a problem. I believe there about half a million of them. They can't stay in student accommodation over the vacation and lectures are going online after Easter. There is no reason for them to return to their place of study. My son has just returned by train from Newcastle to live with his Dad, bringing goodness knows what with him.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 13:54:45

This is happening all over. Ive heard that our local air bnb businesses are thriving from people wanting to temporarily move next to family to self isolate "together"

phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 13:52:41

Luckygirl that's shock

Baggs Tue 31-Mar-20 13:50:18

Why might you expect ?

Because wherever there are rules, people break them. I should think at a fairly predictable rate whatever the rule and wherever the people.

Luckygirl Tue 31-Mar-20 13:40:06

A relative of someone I know has been swanning round Europe in a camper van, latterly in Spain. He has just returned to his family home in the last few days - came under the tunnel, drove to home town and is settled in - no-one stopped him or asked where he was going - he was allowed in with no question - from SPAIN!

eazybee Tue 31-Mar-20 10:47:21

If these six adults and 'some' children' are living in London, they are not supposed to travel to a different part of the country, no matter what previous arrangements have been made,
I wonder what part of the country you live in, Hetty, with all the parties and barbecues. Haven't seen any older people breaking out, and I am surrounded by them. The only thing that is annoying is that they seem to shop in pairs,clinging to each other like H&M, which rather delays the one in, one out rule in our brilliant local Tescos.

phoenix Tue 31-Mar-20 10:01:54

Most people here do seem to be behaving sensibly, at first there were a few incidents of children gathering on the playing field, but that seems to have stopped now. (There were a few angry posts on the village Facebook page!)

The village shop now doesn't allow people in, they have put a counter by the door and you present your list and the items are brought to you. The queue is long, but mainly because people are keeping their distance.

Kalu Tue 31-Mar-20 09:59:42

Got the wrong end of the stick there. I read it that the student was coming from France??‍♀️ Duh!

Kalu Tue 31-Mar-20 09:54:31

The fact that travellers are still being allowed to enter the UK, most likely not tested, is beyond comprehension! Makes a mockery of, we are in Lockdown!

I wouldn’t hesitate to report them Phoenix or, if they are travelling by car, your local police stop them and they are told to go back.

Hetty58 Tue 31-Mar-20 09:42:03

There's an awful lot of very open, defiant, rule breaking around here too. Older people seem to be the worst. The attitude that rules are for other (lesser?) people - but don't apply to 'us' is common. You'd think it was a permanent bank holiday with all the parties and barbeques!

I've never heard so many pathetic excuses to carry on as normal in my life!

Bathsheba Tue 31-Mar-20 09:41:06

phoenix that is definitely wrong, and totally irresponsible. Your student must feel very unsafe there. I honestly think you should report the family - not nice for you, I know, but I think we all have a duty to do what we must to keep this thing contained.