Don't clap for us. You have stabbed us in the back

I’m not going outside clapping. They deserve a pay rise not a load of claps.

That’s right Minigrandma, all NHS staff have had all the Bank Holidays cancelled too. Next Monday my daughter and her husband are supposed to work as NHS staff, but their children won’t be able to go to school and nursery even though they are the children of key workers, and so one of them will have to use up a day of their holiday entitlement so they can look after their three young children.
That kind of treatment is why my daughter and son in law hate the clapping.

I can honestly say I have never clapped on a Thursday.
I know how hard the NHS are working.

So are all the others who are not sat at home getting 80% of their wage.

My husband for one who is working 6 days a week in logistics.
He has had all annual leave cancelled and has not had any bank holidays since the lockdown.

Yes minimoon I agree, it is now scheduled as part of our expected activity. I agree with varian too, how many people stand out there clapping, singing, broadcasting their actions when they voted for this cabinet and Pritti Patel who is trying to pass a bill which is, to put in bluntly, saying to nurses and carers from overseas 'You are good enough to save our lives, but not good enough to live here amongst us'. How on earth can anyone think this is acceptable? I wonder if P Patel stands outside clapping?

I haven't been out to clap for the last two weeks. It began to feel insincere after the TV guide that I receive started putting "Clap for the NHS" invthe listings.

A doctor also said A &E was busier on a Thursday after the clapping as people are climbing up on walls and hurting themselves or some elderly people having not moved much were making the effort to come out to clap and falling as they felt dizzy.
That is really not helping the NHS.

No more clapping for me either. I stay in for them.

Neighbour who organised the party on my street on VE is always out there though.

I have stopped clapping, I also think it is virtue signalling.
I also read on another forum of people being shamed on face book if they did not do it.
I can understand the Doctors hating the clapping.

None of us who voted against the vote leave government being run by Dominic Cummings have stabbed the carers and NHS workers in the back.

So are you saying that the only people who should be out applauding each week for the NHS staff, police, front line care workers, teachers, firemen and shop workers are those who voted "Remain" in the referendum varian? Sorry to ask for clarification but there are so many double negatives in your post that I'm not too sure if that's what you're actually saying.

Just want to say please excuse any mistakes I have lost my reading glasses, again.

When this clapping started their was a post about it and I gave voice to how I disliked it and thought it was very hypocritical of some people who were one minute clapping and the next not following the rules. I must say most people slagged me off. So it great to hear that I am not the only one unhappy with it. Remember the Tory government clapped when the nurses didn't get their pay rise.

I feel very uncomfortable about this 'clapping' thing.
In one way, it's good that people are recognising the unselfish work of healthworkers. But in others it's a bit of an insult - how can you equate the risk to life that they take every day with a clapping of hands?
If you really feel grateful, write letters or a nice card to your local hospital etc or volunteer your help.

Well I voted for the present government and have no need nor intention of hanging my head in shame varian.

What makes you think that none of those "who voted against the leave government" aren't going against the guidlelines?

For goodness sake, there are NHS workers who don't stick to the rules and I'm sure there are amongst them, those who didn't vote for the current government.

None of us who voted against the vote leave government being run by Dominic Cummings have stabbed the carers and NHS workers in the back.

But those who did vote for these charlatans should hang their heads in shame.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Do nurses feel the same way when people present in A&E as a direct result of their foolish or reckless behaviour? By and large, I don't think they do. I have never felt happy about the Thursday night clapping because I think its unfair to all the other groups who have worked throughout the crisis, keeping the country going. Its important that everyone feels valued for their contribution. I'm sure, as before, I will be lambasted for having "no idea how hard our nurses and doctors are working", but I'll save folks the trouble by saying actually, I do, I have been one of them. I commend them wholeheartedly for it. And when I am on the receiving end of their exceptional care, I make sure that they know how much it is appreciated.

The way some people behave is appalling.

I'm shocked at how some NHS workers don't follow the guidelines. There was a post here on GN about a midwife flouting the guidelines.

A lady we know who is a ward sister, and has spent the entire time since lock down posting on FB about staying at home and protecting the NHS, put a pic on FB yesterday of her and her husband in someone else's garden, all sat together on a garden bench.

Just last week she'd posted x rays of covid affected lungs and 'normal' lungs to show the extent of the damage the virus can do.

I spoke to a friend today who has a GP practice nurse for a neighbour whose 2 teenage sons go out on their bikes with friends when they call for them, and on their return, 2 or 3 of the friends go into the house.

It appears that some NHS staff are their stabbing their colleagues in the back.

Moran.....

Good article by Caitlin Moan in Saturdays Times magazine about 'the clap'; can't do a link I'm afraid.

It has become a competition. Who can make the most noise

It’s no longer a spontaneous gesture of appreciation, but a form of virtue signalling, with those who choose to not clap being made to feel guilty.

Ive not observed any selfish behaviour hers. But its a very small community

The clapping has started to become somewhat hypocritical to my mind. I have read many posts on FB from NHS staff who are irritated by it, it is as if people think that is all they have to do, once a week, a quick burst of applause in front of the neighbours and then continue to act selfishly for the rest of the week. It is even more hypocritical when we see Johnson et all clapping for those foreign born NHS staff who will now have to pay around £600 per family member to use the NHS they work in. The hero worship didn't last long did it?

Well in my village the VE day anniversary was nothing like that. Family groups sitting outside their houses at 4 pm drinking tea, eating cake (all prepared by themselves) chatting at a safe distance in the sunshine with neighbours. .There were a few flags and some bunting (people decorated their own houses) , some 1940s music, plus the last post (which people stood in silence for). All in all a lovely, safe, respectful occasion. We all went back inside at about 6 pm and by the next morning all the flags had gone.

If people really care about the NHS don't bother clapping just keep your distance from others.

Clapping does absolutely nothing useful at all.