Daughter at her wits end!

Tiggersuki lots of countries locked down very quickly, like everything this government just pondered over things!
It is too late people have been given an unsaid green light, England stay alert I mean that says it all. When the rest of the country are still using stay home!

Good for you Sophiasnana (not sure about the hugging bit though). Enjoy your day, as I did yesterday with my DD & grandchildren. We all feel a lot better. ?

Hi Spohiasnanna
You will get a lot of mixed comments.
I think the best you can do is do your own personal risk assessment.
I mean if you have more or less been in your home and you have no underlining issues and so has your daughter and family the risk of being in the garden with GCs is far less then the risk of going out shopping and some one sneezing in the aisle you are with.
If your daughter is ok with it, why not?

Please folks, THIS IS NOT FLU nor a strain of flu but much worse. We have a flu vaccine that lessens the worst of flu if you still get it( this happened to us in the US 3 years ago where they also prescribe Tamiflu to help), but not yet for coronovirus. Sadly this will not go away and yes we will have to adapt to a new way of behaving in many ways.
This country has handled the situation so very very badly. New Zealand were one of those that got it right early on and much stricter rules than ours. If noone in your locality has the virus the clearly you will not catch it.
Really however much we miss our families we should not be rushing round hugging people just yet....Scotland IS handling this better....we should not be driving miles and breaking lockdown rules despite the Dominic Cummings of this nation.
Children are suffering hugely and as a retired teacher I really do understand and as soon as possible they really do need to be back in classrooms. Even quite young children will understand hand washing and if their contact is limited to 10 to 15 students their risk of catching or spreading is low and outweighed by the gain from being in school.
It is sensible to sit outside in the garden with them if you are close enough not to have to drive far

It’s awful the effects this pandemic is having on the mental health of the world but particularly on children. Unfortunately I don’t think this will go away after lockdown for some either. As part of a local parents disability group, they’ve recently shared this useful resource from the local child psychology service. I hope you and your daughter find some bits helpful. Go and see them in the garden with coats and blankets if need be. Hold off on the hugs today unless masked but enjoy the togetherness. The support is vital.
www.rainbowpcf.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Emotional-wellbeing-support-strategies-for-CYP-resource-FINAL-1.pdf

Dealite I am so with you...heartbreaking what happened to you and your daughter..which is why I agree I would and have already rushed to my daughter and my 94 yr old father miles away. This lockdown when we have been in our bubbles it is reasonable to visit our family members in trouble

You are so right - poor daughter ! Mine are similar to the extent that they have stopped the influx of school work - they're Mums not teach after all ! They do more 'free learning' via BBC for kids (kids love screen time !) plus more alternative learn as you go learning such as measuring out for cooking, learning about nature on walks and researching what they have seen or if that's too hard then write a tory or a poem or do a drawing. Good luck with it all and do tell her not to stress about school learning. There are so many other benefits. Good luck - open the gin !!

Sophiasnana
No you can't compare corona with WW11.At least with corona as long as you are sensible ( no matter how inconvenient !with your way of life) and following the guidelines you have more chance of waking up in the morning than did the millions who perished in six long years of war.
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Yes I have..we have been in our bubbles been no where and therefore it is safe to do so.

Completely understand being at wits end, especially now that in England we ve been told car show rooms can open but no easing of socialising rules yet. If you have done your risk assessment then go ahead with what you feel is right for you and your family. We have.

I have been to my daughters and had my grand kids with me to give her a break..she is working and her child carw arrangement with 4 and 6 yr old had various blips ..she works with covid samples.. I live in an isolated house far from other people so kids not near anyone else.It did them good. We have all been in our bubbles and I think now ffs people can darn well have a break and help their children..

Please stop calling this flu

"NO ONE WILL HAVE IT" ?-Really??when WHO have said theres lots of people have it yet they are asymptomatic?? And "Lets keep things in perspective"? - tell that to the relatives of the nearly 37000 who have died from it then!!! Gee whizz what does it take to make you all see sense?? Id love to go see (&hug) all my AC & GC - but I'm NOT DOING. Lockdown should have been earlier, and for longer in the first place- and people definitely should not be copying Cummings lead.

I would go, stay outside with the children, and take something different for them to play with.

Sometimes the health of our families must come first and as long as you are sensible, don’t stop on the drive over, take wipes and sanitizer with you.

We have to balance the risks. This is why I don’t understand what Cummings did wrong! If the health of my family was at risk I would take actions to help them.

In my opinion, it's time to get out and get back to normal. If after 9 weeks of isolation and social distancing we are still seeing new cases then it isn't working. We can't hide in the house forever. Yes, be sensible and try to keep safe but the mental and economic costs are now getting to be insurmountable.

Saggi, I feel for your daughter, and my daughter DOES realise how lucky she is, but that doesnt make her feel any better when she is having a bad day!

I think I feel the same as every other granny here. My grandchildren are 9,6,2.5,1,5 and 11 weeks. My daughters are struggling with no granny help (I’m a hands on gran). I’m struggling to wait the required 4 days.

As a retired teacher I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to de-stress about teaching children at home. I can imagine your daughter is exhausted by it all and by trying to do her best. I suggest she stops and has a half term break . Let the children have some down time , not necessarily stuck in front of a tv or tablet but give them achievable options which they can agree on. Small chunks of learning work best in this situation. Learn about cooking, cost of food, how to pay bills etc. Nature study, art, photography on phones etc. Joe Wickes workout is a brilliant start to the day. Get the children to produce their own quizzes for their parents so it is a family thing. They will catch up when they return to school. Plus I think dad needs to take time out to do lunch or tea so mum gets an hour to herself for a face pack ??

My daughter is a mum to three young children. She works three days a week, and her husband works five days at least, he frequently works additional shifts at night or weekend. They are medics, and have suffered having insufficient PPE, particularly at the beginning of this crisis. They work with Covid19 patients some of the time. They were told that their two year old child must attend a nursery as we were no longer allowed to do childcare for them. They were given a choice of three possible nurseries by the LA to choose from. They now have to pay for his childcare. They deliver their six year old twins to school three days a week and then drive to a different area to deliver their two year old to nursery. They frequently work twelve hour shifts, although not at the same time. Her husband works five days, plus extra shifts at weekends or evenings. Two days a week my daughter teaches her twins, looks after a very lively two year old, and juggles housework, laundry, shopping etc.
I think she’d love to be home all week with her children safely in the house, and her husband ensconced safely in an upstairs room working. This pandemic certainly doesn’t disadvantage everyone equally.

See?RIGHT THERE- Gwenisgreat1's comment! THAT is why Dominic Cummings needs to go! He's instigated everyone to follow his lead- its like a bloody pandoras box!

yes jailers and teachers x

I think, especially since 'cummingsgate' almost the whole of the UK has gone mad! Theres now so many of you, all using some kind of ploy, to flock to see family(& some even saying they'll hug them!) mainly in the guise of 'mental health' much in the same manner that Cummings used his child as an excuse! Im trying to be understanding as i know mental health is as serious as physical health- but how would your mental health be if you passed this virus to your family- or if any of them caught the virus (from anywhere) and died??Exactly..time for a rethink???

We are all (apparently) well so had DD and family here yesterday in the garden, no hugs etc until they were leaving when DGD (4) said to DD ‘may I hug Gangan’ DD asked how I felt a about it - OK so we hugged - DGS (soon to be 2) hugged too. We did it with faces over the other’s shoulder. I think it would have distressed DGD too much not to. I surprised my myself with how emotional I was with it

I can sympathise, DD1 lives just round the corner and has a 14 yr old that is shielding for many medical reasons. She has 4 others and a husband or furlough as well. He is a great help on many levels as doe the 17 yr old but still hard going home schooling 6 yr old twins that are at different levels and a 4 yr old that wants to join in as well as the 14 yr old who has been home schooled from 5 yr old.
She is stressed to hell as well, trying to juggle it all, BUT I work in a hospital so no way could I go and help. I have talked the 3 wee ones over the garden fence but that is as near as I will go. They all just want out for a walk, or to take the younger ones to the fishery to see all the baby animals etc, but cant risk it. Horrible times and I totally agree the mental health and the economy are taking a massive hit that is going to take a number of years to recover from.

I would go for your coffee and a sit in the garden and have that hug if you have not been anywhere in the 7 days before hand to catch it from any one. But even somebody different for both you and your daughter to chat to will be nice.

The younger ones are all quite good now as know what lockdown is and why neither set of grandparents can visit. I stopped dropping stuff off she needed until the wee ones were in bed as the first few weeks they howled and sobbed when I dropped stuff off but would not go in to hug them or play a game, broke my heart to hear them sob.

My others live 200 miles away so I just see them on the screen. But 200 m or 200 miles the outcome is the same.

My daughter came around with my lovely GS aged four, just for ten minutes in the garden. You wouldn’t have thought a four year old could get so excited about grandads pots of plants. He just kept saying I remember that now. We socially distanced although I was itching for a cuddle. He went home happy at the end. So I think seeing them all might help. Just my opinion. Take care. X