Should I feel guilty?

Misseseff. I refuse to see common sense as pathetic. Dr Alex George A &E doctor at Lewisham( the one from love island) had a picnic with his girlfriend but of course at a social distance. How nice is That? After working so many pressured hours,?Having a bit of precious time?

But public loos arent taking a possible virus straight into your AC home-, if you go straight home! If we go out we're advised to shower/change arent we? Or has that gone out the window as well?

Nannan2 we are being lead by hypocrites who make up the rules. I have not read one post unless I've missed it where anyone has hugged or kissed another member of thier family. What I have read is common sense being used.
Those with common sense are not responsible for the choices of many who have not bothered with the rules from the get go and more will now flaunt said rules because of the mockery this government have made of them.
Common sense has to be the way forward when Boris can't enforce his own people to follow rules that they themselves have set.

I agree Harrigran- i have 7 'children'- all but one adults(17 yr old & 21 yr old still live with me) and ive 8GC,one step- GC,and new GC on the way,and theyre all a loving family who (in normal times) spend time with me and each other- so we're all missing each other terribly! BUT- we have not taken the risk,and ive not even met nearest daughter one to one in park, as im sure it would make me miss them all even more! So for now,ive got phone calls to the others and send gifts direct to them,and ive got my 2 youngest boys for company and to love, (though we don't hug).so im just riding it out till we are safer, probably not till theres a vaccine

Any particular reason why we cannot use their loos? What about public ones/supermarkets? I have used both public and supermarket ones. Nobody there by the way, I never sit down, I used toilet paper to flush, open door, then hand washing as usual of course!

Merylstreep - I've been going out. Every day. To work. In a hospital. Not saving lives, but adhering to the rules that this killer virus dictates. I've also been going shopping once a week, again adhering to the rules this killer virus dictates. What I haven't been doing is having any of my adult children or six grandsons round for a jolly chat in my garden. Not even on my birthday last month. My presents were left on my doorstep and I waved through the window at two grandsons singing to me. I hope the mother of the 13 year old boy who died without his family around him and couldn't attend his funeral doesn't read these posts. They're a disgrace to everyone that's died of this killer virus. I'm disgusted at the level of intelligence and people trying to justify their behaviour. There is no justification. Pathetic.

Inishowen- how do you know there's "NO HARM DONE"??? You& other adults may have sat spaced apart- but letting all the children play in the paddling pool??? Are you insane?! You don't know there's no harm done,what if ones picked up the virus somehow- shown no symptoms& now passed it on? You'd only be ok if ALL OF YOU THERE HAD TESTED NEGATIVE FOR COVID 19! And then only if it was not a false negative. Common sense has definitely disappeared in uk i think.

Jillybird I agree with you and I get how you are feeling. Please enjoy your visit from your grand children I hope it's a lovely day. Looking forward to seeing mine at some point but they are way to young to understand social distancing. Have a lovely timex

Don't feel guilty mine came round Saturday not once did they come in the house, stayed in garden in fact my 4yr old GC told me 2 meters grandma.

I do hope those flouting the rules will decline a bed in ICU if they become ill.
An hour of fun with relatives may come at a very high price.

I wouldn't worry about it. I haven't seen my Grandchildren at all for ten weeks but next door don't seem to think the rules apply to them. They allow visitors with their children to call at will and mix in close contact, including their elderly parents. Yesterday they had visitors who stood talking directly with them about a foot apart face to face and they allowed their daughter to go to her friends house across the road for the afternoon. Yet she stands there on a Thursday night clapping and banging her saucepan in support of NHS workers!

GOING INSIDE to your familys loo is NOT allowed! Especially if youve just been inside a blinking hospital! Why would you do that?!its such a risk to your daughter! I have to go regularly to hosp anticoag for an INR test as on lifelong warfarin- and i had to go 2days ago for an IMR chest scan- but even though i was gloved&masked,when i got home i went straight for a shower& change of clothes! I would never 'stop off' at one of my AC's houses (&eldests family live not far) and risk them.(&im one who needs loo often, so would never take risk!)

See- that's what all the political folk breaking the rules has done! Its making everyone want to throw caution to the winds whilst some us are desparately trying to still be sensible! And lets not forget that they all did it when we were under strict rules to stay indoors! Now a lot of the public (especially the chavs, thugs, and total idiots who keep getting fined for it!) Are just going to run amok! Couple of months down the line and there'l be a huge surge in cases& deaths again, i would put money on it! This could go on for years as ill bet the money for research for a vaccine will dry up as well!? I think Boris has given up trying to 'control' the situation,as he can't even control his own gov't & staff!

We allow family members into our back garden rather than sitting on the drive. We are sitting apart so no different from meeting in a park. I certainly do not feel guilty. We have to start easing out of lockdown

I do not think you have done anything wrong - it was sensible and distanced - unlike DC who obviously knew he had the virus and drove 260 miles with it and spread it around a bit up north!

This surely needs some common sense? I have MH and physical issues and am shielding, but tomorrow I have to go to hospital because they have found a lesion on my kidney - who knows it could be dodgy and if it is will it get seen to at the moment?? I will be going on the way back to see my adult daughter who lives about 9 miles away - there is a green outside and we will sit there. I will need the loo, so will need to go inside for that but with hand washing and disinfecting what is the issue?

You did nothing wrong - there have been plenty of others mixing, wearing PPE and just throwing on the ground for others to pick up/spitting and coughing at people and totally ignoring the rules ... COMMON SENSE is what is required and what you practised!

But Jillybird- it was on tv news other day that Guernsey have had NO MORE DEATHS from covid19 recently,at all- and jersey is almost 0 too, but they're now in a quandary over getting their economy going as they'd have to risk outsiders coming in- sadly it could then re- introduce the virus- me? I'd want to stay shut-and safe!

They became even more nonsense rules when a Chief Medical adviser (Catherine Calderwood) made at least 2 journeys to her second home whilst telling everyone else to stay at home. And there was also that chap Cummings...... let me think.... what was it he said......and did?

Yes, you should feel guilty. It's just a slap in the face to everyone who's sticking to the rules - and bound to antagonise your neighbours!

No you seem to have abided by guidelines- stayed outside,stayed out at a distance,it seems fine. Ive not tried this as most of my AC are an hour& half's drive away, but with Cummings breaking the rules many many more will be prompted to do so- thats why they should sack him! But you aonk,seem to have been quite sensible.

Misseseff
They became nonsense rules when the scientist who advocated the lockdown had his married lover come to his house for some rumpy pumpy. He obviously thought they were nonsense rules

Family should not have been allowed in your garden....simple.

Jillybird. Nonsense rules?? Wow. Ignorance right there.

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I think what you did was fine - yes, if I gad been one of your neighbours I would have had pangs of envy, but I certainly wouldn’t have been critical of what happened. Hope I can do the same too.

Fuming at clueless Boris and now it trully is time to use common sense even if you haven't before.
If breaking the rules is delivering shopping and sitting at a distance whilst chatting then I'm guilty.

But then I'm already guilty for not getting out of the way quick enough has people who have walked, cycled or jogged right past me or those who can't wait in the supermarket and have lent right over me!!