Should I feel guilty?

Same with my parents Rosina and it does help lift the mental health. Glad you are all safex
I know that seems what the papers are guilty of showing crowded beaches which are photos of last year. My worry I've heard is not all public toilets are open at some coastlines?

MadeInYorkshire, you are aware that those with kidney problems are in the higher risk category and most are in the "shielded" category. I think it would be very risky for you to start socialising at the moment. Of course, if you want to play Russian Roulette that is your right but if your daughter turned out to be a carrier, how would she feel as you lay at death's door?

missiseff
Selfish people are always self serving.
You clearly have a lot of common sense and have understood the rules correctly. Those using common sense as an argument for flouting the rules are really just trying to make excuses for their behaviour (safe distancing of course)
Unfortunately you can lead a horse to water........

I'm gobsmacked!
Well said Missiseff Mon 25-May-20 10:24:17
The rule was that you could meet ONE person in a park etc at a 2 metre distance.
After reading the comments on hanging and quartering Dominic Cummings, pot, kettle black springs to mind.

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May7 what rules are you following? It's an absolute mess just listen to Boris all we have is common sense. Even an A&E doctor is social distancing himself on a picnic with a girlfriend. Which he well deserves. You can't control what others do, but you can control the common sense you apply to whatever you are doing. Nothing to do with being selfish at all.

Have a good afternoon all if you can't use instinct next best thing is common sense and remember not compulsory because Boris is too laid back to be that firm wear a mask especially on public travel. Take care allx

We have had a couple of social distancing meetings with our daughter and family who live one mile from us. We were very careful and didn't share food or drinks or anything else. We have to stay sane. Don't worry aonk.

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Well since you asked ,jishere I follow the rules laid out on the gov.uk website.

We have had no visitors whatsoever. Our house is up for sale we havent up to now allowed anyone to view.
We care for elderly parents and I do that online or telephone constantly. Difficult but not impossible. My daughter lives 10 mins away and we Facetime. My son and family live over 100miles away, we Facetime. We haven't seen them in the flesh since lockdown. We have a new grandchild due in July. It breaks my heart but not my spirit. My friends live nearby we facetime or WhatsApp. My clubs are done through Zoom. We shop once every 10 days. We couldnt get online deliveries even though we were regulars. We walk our dogs daily round the local field that's our exercise. Boring yes.
We dont go to our second home but still pay the full rental
We dont have Bbqs our council have asked us not to during this time
We have lost a relative in a care home to the virus but we couldnt attend their funeral
We have had a wedding anniversary party cancelled and have missed both our birthday celebrations.
Some of our neighbours break the rules to satisfy themselves and then they are all out clapping banging saucepans and letting of fireworks on a Thursday. Just so hypocritical. When the rules relax more then we will follow that.
I agree Boris et al is a mess and it does appear to be one rule for them and one rule for us but selfish is selfish whatever way you wrap it up

Oh and my understanding is that Dr Alex George met his girlfriend for a picnic in the park whilst being 2 metres apart which according to the rules is allowed. Not in his home or garden

Don’t feel guilty we are moving forward and I think the pm will be putting new way forward again soon. Enjoy it for what it was.

No, do not feel guilty Anok.
Many people are living in fear and they should not have this inflicted upon them.
We met my husband's niece as she left a shop. It was her first time at the shop and she just burst out crying. I just wanted to hug her....I didn't of course, just gently talked to her til she was okay.

Repercussions on people's other illnesses are really taking a battering - just read several comments elsewhere of dentistry problems and even to the extent of someone trying to stick there crown back on with superglue and did it the wrong way round.

There is much more debate and knowledge unwinding but often you will not find it on mainstream media.

Yes, I will remain sensible but I will not be made to feel afraid.
Bless you all.

Sorry to hear that May7 that has been and still is one of the saddest things about this virus lack of people allowed at funerals. This is Why many are up in arms at Cummings breaking the rules.

Unless I have missed something we will have to agree to disagree. I have seen elderly family whilst delivering their shopping and sat in their garden which is large enough to be a park. But my daughter and grandchildren no not yet and I can't wait to see them but who can tell me when that will be and I think this is what this thread has been about. We have all had to make sacrifices and if we use cs then we and our love ones will remain safe. Take carex

We did the same last week! Sat in the conservatory with the door a little ajar, and grandkids had a picnic with their mum on the grass. No risks taken, kids knew we had to be apart so we wouldn’t catch “the virus germs”. They understood (7&4) and were fine.

I don’t understand your post Jishere. It’s nice that you’ve delivered shopping to elderly family and chatted from a distance. However you haven’t had the same contact with your DD and GC. I would do it the other way round. I’ve said that I’ve met up at a distance with my AC and GC but wouldn’t dream of doing so with elderly family or neighbours as they are most at risk.

I’m shocked by the number of people who are saying “nothing to feel guilty about” and “you have done nothing wrong.”
You (and countless others it would seem) have broken the rules. Whether you agree with the rules is irrelevant. And DC breaking the rules doesn’t make it right for you to do so as well. Let’s all remember WHY these rules were put in place, and do our best to follow them for the sake of others even if we don’t care about our own safety.

There is no logical reason behind banning people from gardens together if they maintain 2m distance.

However I’ve furloughed my butler.

Aonk everybodies situation has/is different. My daughter doesn't live near me, so how was she suppose to drive here?It is up to her when she is ready to allow others to be near my precious grandchildren. They are young and would never understand social distancing. Elderly relatives live up the road in fact went shopping today for them. I don't think it's that hard to understand, they need my help. Kind of feel you are nit picking here when I for one supported your very first post.

Jishere you’re right. You did support my post and Im grateful for that. Yes everyone has different circumstances and it must be difficult for you that your DD and GC are far away from you. My family has stuck rigidly to the lockdown rules from day one, only going out for walks and shopping and not meeting up at all. Yes we have now breached those rules largely to boost our mental health. I said I felt guilty but some posters have been so harsh.

Boost our mental health? That old chestnut

It will probably end up with about 20,000 extra deaths from covid-19 than in a bad flu year; that's 20,000 out of a population of about 70 million people in the UK. Probably fewer died in road accidents over the last few months so fatalities overall will be fairly constant at a quarter of a million per annum. To put numbers in perspective, about 200,000 healthy babies are aborted each year and there seems to be a large fan club for a woman's choice to do that!

While it is sad for the families involved who have lost someone they are close to, everyone needs to get a grip and start behaving normally. Lockdown will end soon and the day before won't be any different from the day after the announcement.

Jishere I’m grateful for your supportive post. Yes everyone has different circumstances and I can see that having your DD and GC living far away must be very hard for you. All my family has adhered strictly to the lockdown and last Friday was our first breach of the rules. This is why I said I felt guilty. By the way my GC are old enough to understand social distancing and didn’t enter the house at all. I wish you well.

Missiseff I wish you well too.

There are some odd comments on here. There's talk of meeting up in your gardens but 'sticking to all the rules' - no you are not.

Then a mention of supermarket shopping for the first time since lockdown implies that it's somehow safer now. I doubt that - as infection rates are far higher.

As for using public loos, I'd never risk that. The loo used by traders in Wuhan market was suspected of harbouring and transmitting the virus rapidly.

Think about it. The virus exists in fecal matter. Flushing loos creates airborne mist (that's why toothbrushes should never be stored within six feet of a toilet).