Easing the lockdown

Oh my goodness whatever the government do will always be the wrong thing by some people! Lockdown was wrong and easing lockdown is also wrong.Life has to go on and we must all take responsibility for our own safety and just be sensible.If you don't feel safe don't go out!

I agree Rose56 about Emily. This seems to me like a government trying to keep in control when they know lots were unhappy with them.
Let's give the peasants a little treat that will help all this DC rubbish blow over.
Also Monday back to school, it would have been another row, children can go to school but they can't see family.

Yes. It's to cover up the inevitable surge of deaths from the Cummings fiasco with a separate surge from opening things up too quickly.
In my view, they should have opened schools... waited... opened non essential shops... waited... instead it's all happening at once.
I expect the infection rate will go through the roof, the farce of a track and trace system will be overwhelmed immediately, and we'll be back in durance vile for another spell.
Herd immunity by another name...

Of course the government are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
I believe most people are fairly sensible and we cannot stay ‘locked up’ for ever. There just wouldn’t be anything to come out to.
Take care and be kind to yourself and others.

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I’m not convinced by any arguments that lockdown hasn’t saved many lives,

Neither am I*maddyone*.

Being able to meet 6 members of family or friends will make absolutely no difference to my neighbours, several of them have been visiting family and friends, and having family and friends to sit in their gardens all along. I think Boris is easing the lockdown too soon.

I’m not convinced by any arguments that lockdown hasn’t saved many lives, despite the high death toll world wide. There was no lockdown for Spanish flu and millions died, and thankfully the world hasn’t yet lost a million lives.

Cummings sister is not the Alice Cummings director of the company involved in the postal voting .

Also cummings sister is a director of the company involved in it. All a deliberate distraction.

I think that has already been disproved further upthread, Tiny

Yes. Also the rolling out of track and test early before it was ready. It was due to be rolled out in June. It crashed as soon as it went live.
Also cummings sister is a director of the company involved in it. All a deliberate distraction. Enough said?

Yes, absolutely! The easing of lockdown should not be brought forward just to take our attention away from the debacle that is the Boris and Dom show

I feel we are heading very fast for a second wave of corona .

Boris has only made these changes to distract us from his mate Cummings. Boris refuses to answer any questions about Cummings.

Boris's responsibility to be accountable to voters in nil.

No!

growstuff, I agree with you on the tardy lockdown, but we have to take this step at some point.

We have to hope that the decision to make this decision was the correct one. With this bunch (couple) it’s difficult to have faith but I for one am trying.
I think that they are expecting a second surge but feel that the NHS can cope.
Let those of us who are not at as much risk as others take the first few steps. It is our choice, I’m talking personally here I can’t speak for anyone else.

I felt quite angry with BJ yesterday, not allowing Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance to answer questions from journalists about his spad Dominic Cummings' trips to Durham. However, I don't think the easing of the lockdown is to do with Cummings, it's about gradually getting the economy moving. It has to happen, though I hope for the sake of the planet that it will not be business as usual in all sectors.
For my DH and myself, we shall continue to avoid shops if possible and we shall not be travelling to see our ACs yet.

We shall carry on as we have been, DD delivering some doorstep groceries and online shopping. Hoping to see DD and DS after next weekend in the garden. I feel they thought they had no choice after Nicola in Scotland suddenly announced families could mix, I think its up to eight at a time. Surely the best thing for the over 70's is to carry on as they have been plus an occasional garden visit. I can't say much about DC as I am speechless.

Yes, I too feel we have eased the lockdown too soon. I suppose it is easy for we oldies to say this, and it is different for those who need to get back to work, but speaking yesterday evening to two of my young neighbours they agreed that it would have been better to wait until, say, the end of June, and he is a self employed builder who is obviously losing a lot of money at present.

On the other side of the argument the government has already spent/borrowed an incredible amount of money on trying to keep the economy on hold and at some time there would have had to be at least a partial resumption of business and there is the dilemma. Shall we all be rushing out to spend, or shall we resurrect the war-time advice to make do and mend?

I have a notice on the door of my wardrobe given to me years ago by my daughter
Use it up
Wear it out
Make it do
Or do without

For me one of the pleasures of lockdown has been sitting in my garden in the evening without the smell of burnt food and smoke drifting across as someone possibly several doors away has a barbecue. Horrible!

Seefah It's not "as if". Booze ups and breweries come to mind.

Yet again no really clear advice from the bumbling man at the top. Other countries have stipulated that masks must be worn in certain places, what do we get" er well mumble mumble
perhaps in enclosed places "etc .
Even yesterday at the briefing the suggestion of having barbecues put a look of horror on one of the scientists faces.
The problem is instead of direct this is what to do we are given vague suggestions from someone who doesn't stop to think before he speaks.

Yes, they were Anniebach, but now they've been given a green light to ignore lockdown. It's not even as though it was the same kind of full lockdown that other countries imposed.

Dorsetcupcake I'm a working age diabetic with heart problems and I'm extremely glad that I no longer work for an employer (school). I was actually forced out of work as a result of medical problems, so I can't see that I would have been given any special consideration, if I'd been forced back to work without adequate safeguards.

I'm now self-employed and lost over half my income overnight when lockdown was announced. Some people have tried to get me to continue working, but I declined the business because my own health and safety is more important. Unfortunately, that does mean that I'm having to live even more frugally than I normally do and my finances are challenging (to say the least). I'm having to rebuild my business, so it can be done online, but it's difficult.

I miss not seeing friends and family as much as anybody else. I also miss my two charity jobs, but it would be sheer stupidity on my part to resume normal life.

I do think the messaging from the government is unclear and people will use it as an excuse to ignore any kind of restrictions, which will prolong the situation for all of us.

I think it’s only natural for us to feel uneasy. The rules are clear enough if you read them properly, but there will always be those who bend them to suit themselves. Self preservation is the code.

Some were ignoring lockdown long before the Cummings story.

I feel it's honestly too early and suspect we'll see the second surge - hope I'm wrong, but we won't know till we try.