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MawB Sun 31-May-20 10:30:55

Lockdown had many advantages despite what it looked like at first, because at least I felt that although on my own I was “not alone” if you see what I mean. We were all in it together.
Nobody could do anything, go anywhere or have visitors. FaceTime, Zoom and the phone plus TV were the most any of us could aspire to.
But now I am seeing pictures of people on beaches, reading of opened garden centres, people popping in to friends, people driving half way across the country to visit family, picnics in the park and visits to second homes.
And I am beginning to feel lonely again!
I dont want to drive long distances alone even if technically I am legally permitted to,( I thought that the 6 people in the garden was as of tomorrow anyway), I understand the roads are much busier again and on my brief foray to the post office 3 miles away the other week, I saw some lunatic driving which made me wonder about some people’s eyesight!

No, what I am feeling is that “easing” lockdown is creating much more of a “them and us” situation. Those prepared to take risks and those who think nothing has changed in 10 weeks, except that with 8,000 new cases every day perhaps the danger is even greater!
And being on my own is brought home to me even more.

4allweknow Mon 01-Jun-20 10:57:37

To follow on, yesterday received a FB posting from an NHS worker. Thus read: We are all fed up and tired of this virus. The virus is though not tired and never will be. We need to remember that and do what we feel will protect us and those dear to us.

VIVIY Mon 01-Jun-20 10:59:46

I agree I live alone my next door neighbour is self isolating..we are in a way keeping each other going we talk over the fence, but I too am missing company especially being able to touch. I long for a cuddle.
I have not biked for years and had a bike in the garage ( I don't drive) luckily I had the sense to get the biked checked out the week before lockdown and it has turned out to be my rock I don't think I would manage without it with having lympdeama in my foot, I find it hard to walk long distances.
Out on the bike these last few weeks with not many cars has been fine but this last couple drivers seem to be driving so fast the other morning one over took me and I was coming up to a roundabout a car was going round it already and I thought he is going to go into the side of it. Bikes riding on footpaths and not getting out of the way of pedestrians. Manners and all common sense seems to have gone out of the window.
Yesterday I was in town and I was coming out of a shop (food) and I asked a man to step back to let me out and he just said NO I asked him twice before the girl in the shop came and told him, as I left I told him he wasn't giving me 2 metres I heard the girl still telling him when I left.
I thought if there is only these few people around and they can't get it there is no hope when every one else is let loose...and as for standing on the tape line no hope.Brains seem to have gone out of the window.
My friend is already saying things are opening up and yes I want to go out for a drive ( but I can't not in her car) I want company, my family live miles away, but I am not going to take any risks. I am pleased that people are being able to meet up again but they need to act sensibly and to the rules.
When I see all these photos and the news I think it is not over people are too close don't they realise we still have no cure and no way of knowing where it could next peak.
I will just stick to my needed food shop and occasional evening short bike ride, and be careful.

Gwenisgreat1 Mon 01-Jun-20 11:00:13

I did go to a daughter on Saturday while GS was happily playing in the hot tub, then there were no problems with cuddles. This pm we are venturing to other daughter's and see my 4 year old GD, but she is under the impression we all have bugs so think she will stay away from us. Apart from that (and walking the dog) I shall be staying in for the foreseeable future

gran23 Mon 01-Jun-20 11:01:56

Thank you to all for your helpful words- I'm glad to know my feelings are so much like others.

GrannySomerset Mon 01-Jun-20 11:02:31

Living with DH who has Parkinson’s and dementia I ache for general conversation and chat, so having a cup of tea in our next door neighbour’s garden, properly distanced, was a life line. I miss my normal life which may never gets return; DH has now got so used to my constant presence that I fear it may be impossible to get out on my own, and finding suitable support is hard at the best of times and impossible now.

But I don’t expect to feel safe on public transport or in our local town for a long time. Like most posters, I think the rate of new infections is far too high for it to be safe to relax precautions, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that too many people are far from sensiblele.

Rosina Mon 01-Jun-20 11:05:24

It is a really apprehensive time for us all - except those who don't seem to have registered that there have been over 30,000 deaths... However, at some point we must screw up the courage and go out, or else live half a life indoors, cut off from everything and everyone. As we start to do this there will be those who brace themselves and go, and those who feel it is too soon and will wait and see. That's perfectly natural I would have thought - with any decision in life, be it starting a relationship, or even buying a new sofa, some will hesitate and others won't. We who are retired have the luxury of being able to wait. Those whose jobs are at risk if they don't step up and help the economy must be suffering if they are nervous now. I do feel for them - and worry about my AC who are going to have to go to work in the very near future, but what is the alternative? We are told the virus will be with us for a very long time, so do we sit and watch the economy implode, and then starve? I wish I had some clever answers.

Shalene777 Mon 01-Jun-20 11:07:57

I agree. We will not be doing or going anywhere until we can see that there isn't a second wave. I have managed to go to the supermarket for us and my parents and that will continue to be the only outing I get. We are in our early 50's but my parents are mid to late 70's and it would really destroy me to know that I brought covid into their home by not being careful.

Lclaytonuk555 Mon 01-Jun-20 11:10:19

I have the same feelings MawB. I am mostly housebound anyway so it was a strange feeling when everyone else was too. I didn’t feel like I was missing out at all.

My sister and brother in law are visiting later to sit in the garden with us. I am a little nervous After all this time but as long as we social distance There shouldn’t be an issue. Lovely to see talk to someone in ‘real life’ ( apart from my husband ).

Lupin Mon 01-Jun-20 11:13:31

I get what you say Maw B, and have feel similar. Lockdown as a shielded individual living alone has had its upside. I have most of the time felt peaceful and part of a collective effort to stay safe. Both my children live at opposite ends of the country and cannot visit all the time anyway. Thank goodness for modern technology.
I have decided to make my own cautious way into the outside world and be very careful while doing so. Even in shielded lockdown I had to walk up to the doctors surgery to have blood taken pre a telephone clinic, so have walked up to drop off my repeat prescription requests. I hope for a vaccine as soon as it is possible, It's hard to be left behind as others can emerge further. Sympathies and empathies Maw B

kwal Mon 01-Jun-20 11:14:00

MawB and Cabbie21 I agree with you both. I also live near to beaches and was hoping to get out a bit once the 12 weeks are up but seeing the huge amount of traffic around and the Tv reports about beaches I have had a change of mind. I'm quite happy staying in alone and doing my crafts even if I will have to wait longer to see my grandchildren. They will still be around in a few months time and I want to make sure I am too.

Malonegirl Mon 01-Jun-20 11:14:48

The virus has not gone away. Some people are thinking it has because of the governments mixed messages. Make no mistake there will be a second wave. It is all about the economy at the moment. I will remain doing what I have been doing for the past 3 months, staying safe. You are not alone . There are sensible people out there doing what is right. It is just a shame that some are not taking it seriously and I blame the government for that.

Pumpkinpie Mon 01-Jun-20 11:16:14

I think things are worse because of how poorly the government disseminate guidance and seem unable to grasp the basics.
How can we have gone from a level 4 risk to a level 1 in 2 weeks?
Cases are rising at a higher rate than rest of Europe.
We are told by Boris the trace track system is the best in the world
But reports are it’s not working, poor training, and won’t be ready at the earliest end of June
The government are changing figures, avoiding what’s happening in the rest of world
We seem to get a story in the papers to test public response & gov then do a statement adapted to pander to public opinion.
I really feel it’s like a free for all , people can’t trust the government so councils, schools, nhs are having to muddle through instead of working as a team

antheacarol55 Mon 01-Jun-20 11:20:06

I feel the same .I am not “ lifting “ my lockdown any time soon apart from seeing my son and we have both side we be social distancing

Pumpkinpie Mon 01-Jun-20 11:48:21

Perhaps if there was less giving mates lucrative government contracts & actually working with the rest of the world on systems that work we would have a coherent working plan.
A lower death rate & a degree of public confidence
Instead of the headless chicken approach we have now

fuseta Mon 01-Jun-20 11:48:58

From next week I have to pick my GS up from school as DD and SIL have to go back to work. I am a bit worried but having seen photos of the new layout, it doesn't seem any worse than a spermarket, as the school gates are closed and parents/carers are not allowed into the school grounds. children are allowed through the gate one at a time and there are markers for parents to stand in a queue 2 meters apart outside those gates. We will walk back from the school and go straight into the garden. If GS needs anything he can go inside. I will be wearing my mask at all times. It is not ideal but it is the best that we can come up with under the circumstances. Apart from supermarket visits, this will be my first step back into the outside world. I must point out that the schools are opening, but the breakfast clubs and after school clubs, which are very important to working parents are not open and so I would rather look after my GS whilst keeping my distance, than finding a new childminder who he doesn't know and putting him in someones house where there are several children who are probably not keeping their distance, so life has to slowly start to open up again, although personally I wish they had kept the schools clsed until September.

Tabbycat Mon 01-Jun-20 11:50:33

Over the last 11 weeks we have only gone out:
to exercise (just for an hour and usually late afternoon or early evening when it's quieter);
to shop for food (once a week for ourselves and my 92 year old mother - we gave up on trying to find a delivery slot online);
and to collect medication from a local pharmacy.
Last week we tried to go to our local plant nursery, but it was so busy that we turned round and came home again. Apart from one short garden visit from my daughter on my birthday, we have had no visitors.
Over a hundred people died from this virus just yesterday. The images on the TV of people crowded on to beaches, parks and beauty spots fills me with dread - no, thank you! I think we will be staying in as much as possible for some time yet.

Tabbycat Mon 01-Jun-20 11:53:34

Hello fuseta - I'm a retired primary school teacher and I'm so glad I don't have to go into school and deal with all this ...

Whiteanemone Mon 01-Jun-20 11:56:36

Gosh Maw I could have written your post. I feel exactly like that. My family are 200 miles away so I won’t be seeing them anytime soon. I was widowed 6 months ago and was just starting to go out a little before lockdown. I’m lucky I live in a lovely part of the world and have a garden and if I’m honest I have not found lockdown hard. Somehow it lifted all the pressures when everyone was in the same boat. Now I suddenly find myself tearful and lonely. It’s not rational - my youngest facetimes me every day and a dear friend does the same. My neighbours have been lovely but it’s just how I feel.
I’m in Wales where our rules are different and there is a strict rule that people from other countries should not visit their
holiday homes. Yesterday my neighbours arrived en masse
They live near Manchester but seem totally unaware of the rule. They don’t seem to think it applies to them! Rant over!

Gingergirl Mon 01-Jun-20 12:01:30

I agree with you MawB , there was a sense of oneness at the start, but now, we’ve reverted back to the kind of division that there always has been. I guess you just can’t get away from that. Personally, I generally find that I don’t enjoy doing what the masses do and if going out, I go to quiet places. If I’m honest, I feel I’ve been ‘ousted out’ of those, the past few weeks, as the crowds elsewhere are being controlled....and now they too descend on my ‘quiet places’. I can’t seem to easily find anywhere to go and don’t want to be with crowds for two reasons now...I hate it anyway...and it’s too much of a risk at the moment.

ALANaV Mon 01-Jun-20 12:01:56

Sorry you feel that way MawB ...I am also on my own but I can honestly say that my life has hardly changed at all …...I do much the same as every day ...walk along the beach (I live there, not travel to !)…..go to the shop ….do my office work......never see or speak to anyone except the man in the paper shop and maybe the supermarket check out person (unless I use the auto tills)…..use public transport as there is no option (mask, gloves, hand gel etc)…...the only thing that is different for me is not being able to have my coffee or lunch out …..can do now, in plastic cups which is a bonus as I like to sit and watch the sea with my drink ! I (or any of us for that matter) may have had it and been asymptomatic ...before lockdown, and could therefore have unknowingly passed it on or have only mild symptoms and maybe thought ah, a cold, or hay fever …...no one will ever know . The world has had to recover from viruses, pandemics (the bubonic plague etc) and it did and we survived ….it is really time to STOP panicking and get some semblance of normality back asap. The school next to me is open today (it never closed as it was taking children of essential workers) and it is being sensible ...children appear to have about 15 minutes each class for break, then the next class, etc etc …… two people where I live had died of cancer during the lockdown …. and I have a friend whose father is dying in a care home (NONE of them due to COVID 19) ...she was lucky in that she could see him with her mother ….so many people have died anyway, not of this illness, but of other illnesses or simply old age ….we must put it into perspective ….and decide if we are going to be sensible and adult. Life goes on no one is promised tomorrow.

Cindersdad Mon 01-Jun-20 12:03:35

Life has to go on and we have to socially distance as best we can. I'm 75 and not classified as shielded but my wife is a lot younger than me and has been classified as shielded. I have been doing the shopping complete with mask, don't use gloves anymore just wash hands and wipe things down. The Liverpool Madrid match should have been stopped as also should the Cheltenham Festival. I think that community infection is now a lot lower than it was but it is still too high in Hospitals and Care Homes.

A point was made on Good Morning Britain that the top 3 countries for deaths are US, UK and Brazil. All 3 have poor political leadership, the US has hot spots in big cities but a low density of people in rural areas. The UK should have locked down earlier which the people would have accepted. Brexit or rather than ineptitude of the Brexiteers distncing from European best practice. Belatedly they are trying now and doing the right thing under the current circumstances.

I don't know how Primark in Liverpool will socially distance with the layout of the store. John Lewis and M&S may be better but not much. My local ALDI and Sainsburies seem to be working safely. Most smaller shops can restrict customers to a few in at a time so should manage.

I volunteer for the National Trust in a small property where social distancing is just not possible, I doubt they will open before next year.

allule Mon 01-Jun-20 12:04:23

I think we looked on the lockdown as a temporary hold, while the experts sorted out symptoms, treatment, testing etc. So it doesnt seem right to ease up when none of this has been done.
I must admit to selfishness too. We are lucky to have daughters and sons living nearby, and I am missing being able to call on them for help!

Tooting29 Mon 01-Jun-20 12:04:34

It is difficult to judge as we can't stay in lockdown forever. We are mostly staying at home and I walk regularly for exercise on local footpaths and generally do not meet a soul. Shopping makes me anxious as there are differences between the standard of care in each shop. We will continue to be cautious particularly when you see how certain members of the public behave. I miss family and the other activities I enjoy but at least the garden is well loved

Gingergirl Mon 01-Jun-20 12:04:40

Fuseta just remember that the mask is supposed to protect you from others but not others from you! Good luck!

absthame Mon 01-Jun-20 12:05:06

Why is there not more of an acceptance that the lifting of the lockdown, virtually overnight, not supported by medical and scientific opinions, is designed to distract us from Cummings and the incompetence of the government in dealing with the virus. The none political advice is still stay indoors. Ignore the science at your peril a,d that of all that you hold dear