AIBU No going back to school I’m furious.

Grandad1943 I'm simply stating facts. The impossibilities have been explained ad nauseam on this thread and yet some people continue to post the same things."Inspiration, enthusiasm and innovation" happen every day in schools unfortunately when it comes to some problems they are no substitute for proper investment.

Nope not true grandad. Most of the.parents I know fully support their schools.

Hard to believe grandad still,saying the same thing. If the government would give schools the go ahead in certain areas nit to mention finding for extra staff cleaning premises then teachers would be there in a shot.

Elegran in regard to your post @18:39 today, I believe my posts in this thread have been constructive in attempting to bring some innovation into the ongoing school closure situation. Others also outside the education establishment have carried out similar in the thread.

However, all we have witnessed from those associated with education has been excuses, excuses as to why any suggestions cannot be carried out. Not at any point has there been any attempt to engage or expand on those suggestions which in itself, I feel, speaks volumes for the attitude of those within the education establishment at this time.

In the above no one has attempted to "talk down" to those in the teaching profession, but that action has been very prevalent in reverse in this thread.

In regard to those employed in transport and distribution throughout this Covid-19 crisis, had they not demonstrated and carried out far greater innovation and work ethic than those in the education profession, then Britains supermarket shelves would have been very empty indeed.

Galaxy

Nope not true grandad. Most of the.parents I know fully support their schools.

In your dreams Galaxy, in your dreams.

Grandad, you're a one trick pony. Wouldn't go down well in court. Not being able to upgrade your argument when the one-size-fits-all one you have isn't working.

My old UK school sent out a survey. Less than 5% of parents were unhappy.

In my local primary in reception they have between three and five children out of the nine that could be in each day, this is not anecdotal it is a fact!!

So why not offer more than one day a week to the children who are attending?

Because the others may decide to send their children in on the days allocated to them!

I realise this is happening as only about one-third of pupils are attending school out of the number who could do so at DIL's school.
However, the other 20 might well arrive one day if their parents think it is safe enough.

GagaJo

My old UK school sent out a survey. Less than 5% of parents were unhappy.

Well, would, in reality, GagaJo expect parents to return a written survey criticising a school that their children were attending even if was returned anonymously

So you anecdotally know all those parents are unhappy when the evidence says otherwise?

This is a school, by the way, where parents have been know to storm reception (thankfully there is a locked door between reception and the school) demanding to see the head to complain. In other words, they're not backwards in coming forwards.

Grandad1943

GagaJo

My old UK school sent out a survey. Less than 5% of parents were unhappy.

Well, would, in reality, GagaJo expect parents to return a written survey criticising a school that their children were attending even if was returned anonymously

Oh yes!!

And speak their mind at meetings.
Today's parents have a voice, unlike the days when we were at school, Grandad!

GagaJo

Grandad, you're a one trick pony. Wouldn't go down well in court. Not being able to upgrade your argument when the one-size-fits-all one you have isn't working.

One size very often does not fit all, especially in safety. That is why individual establishment innovation is required along with a determination to push that forward.

However, we see little of that anywhere in the education sector at this point in time.

Dear god. We give up grandad you know everything we bow to your superior knowledge of education and parents views.

Callistemon

Because the others may decide to send their children in on the days allocated to them!

I realise this is happening as only about one-third of pupils are attending school out of the number who could do so at DIL's school.
However, the other 20 might well arrive one day if their parents think it is safe enough.

Fair point

Maybe they should inform the school of their intentions so that the head/teachers can accommodate those children whose parents would like them to attend.

Thank you Galaxy. ?

Pfft. I don't.

He knows better but can't come up with ANY suggestions.

Even those failing teachers he's so critical of would see that as poor analytical skills.

Appalling grammar there. Apologies.

Grannygravy it's not as simple as that.
Contact with parents was made before this; it took a long time to prepare and ascertain which children would be going back.
However, parents can suddenly decide to change their minds too.

GagaJo

So you anecdotally know all those parents are unhappy when the evidence says otherwise?

This is a school, by the way, where parents have been know to storm reception (thankfully there is a locked door between reception and the school) demanding to see the head to complain. In other words, they're not backwards in coming forwards.

GagaJo is that the school that I believe you stated you have returned to in Switzerland in the last two weeks?

If so I am surprised to hear that Swiss people act in that way.

No. It's the UK school I worked at until December in Northumberland. They sent out a survey to ask for parent opinions. Staff are working hard. I'm glad they got recognition from parents

At the school I'm currently at, they just threaten to withdraw their children.

Grandad1943 as an ex-teacher I really respect your knowledge of health and safety.

Callistemon

Grannygravy it's not as simple as that.
Contact with parents was made before this; it took a long time to prepare and ascertain which children would be going back.
However, parents can suddenly decide to change their minds too.

Callistemon it is highly unlikely that ALL the parents would decide to return their children to school on the same day, especially without notice.

Therefore all other sectors would plan for what they know as certainty in numbers and carry out possibility arrangements for one or two extra to arrive.

But of course, what we are witnessing is that those in schools could not possibly think in those terms to reduce the severity of this crisis on the children they are responsible for in education.

How about you volunteer to help a local school Grandad? You are so full of solutions and have a vested interest, given your grandchildren's needs.

Planning is a particular skill. You claim to have it. Contact a local head and offer to assist in putting together an action plan.

Oh you weren't too far from me Gagajo. I grew up in northumberland.