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Anger at rule breakers.

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TenaciousB Wed 10-Jun-20 21:19:32

I’m feeling extreme anger at people breaking the rules around lockdown. Mostly friends and family closest to me. I’ve stuck to the rules rigorously having had pneumonia in the past and have not seen my family for 8 months now as they live too far away. I’m finding that hard but what is making me feel ill with rage is these people breaking rules to see theirs. One of them has been told to shield, calls people on tv who she sees breaking the rules but then goes in and out of her friends houses for coffee with not a care, let’s her grown children visit with her grandchildren and gives them hugs. Another friend shares car rides with friends, goes in her daughters house for coffee and has her round too and plays with and hugs her grandchildren. I feel that I’m sticking to the rules and suffering from the separation from family while they break the rules and are as happy as Larry. The anger is eating away at me and I don’t really want it to but can’t help it. I’m also bottling up my feelings and not saying anything to them as I know one day this will be over and I may lose friendships over it if I don’t keep my mouth shut. Sorry just needed a rant and to get it off my chest to someone.

Sparklefizz Sat 13-Jun-20 17:00:08

Well, J52, I suppose one could argue that they are going back to work. It's not as if they are meeting a mate down the pub.

Peardrop50 Sat 13-Jun-20 17:02:15

Sparklefizz, I agree, feelings must be acknowledged if they are not to fester. Most important thing is to do our own risk assessment and know we are doing what is right for ourselves, our family, our friends, our community, our country. Unfortunately there are many who think only of me, me, me.
We are right to feel disappointed by their actions which put us, our family, our friends, our community and our country at risk.
In my opinion it invalidates the feelings of others to say ignore the rule breakers. Better to acknowledge that we are right to feel some anger, then empathise and suggest distraction.

J52 Sat 13-Jun-20 17:03:48

Of course sparkle you are right. However, we also have a business in Scotland, but are managing it remotely out of respect for the people who live in the area. An area with an extremely low R rating.

Sparklefizz Sat 13-Jun-20 18:00:29

Peardrop I agree.

Willow73 Sat 13-Jun-20 18:29:35

I agree. Think we should just go back to normal life and if it doesn't work then have lockdown again. Maybe then they would all listen when their relatives/friends get it.

Mercedes55 Sat 13-Jun-20 19:53:02

We've followed the guidelines in our house, haven't been anywhere but out walking the dog in the park since the beginning of March and it's been hard. Today we actually saw son, DIL and granddaughter for the first time in the garden and it was lovely.
I've seen a lot of people I know break the guidelines and it does worry me what impact it will have on the rest of us.
One of the worst things I have come across is a friend of mine who has a close friend that has had all the symptoms of this awful virus for the last few days. She's had a very high fever, headache, cough, aches and pains and went for a test yesterday.
I couldn't believe it when my friend told me that the first thing she did after getting home from having the test was get back in her car and go shopping in a very large supermarket. She has a husband and 2 teenage children but they apparently wouldn't go. On the one hand I am thinking if she is well enough to go shopping then she can't be feeling as bad as she claims, but as she has been for a test surely she should wait for the results until she goes out shock

Maremia Sat 13-Jun-20 21:06:16

No, it's not been easy for anyone, and we are getting restless now that there is a chance of restrictions easing. Then on the news today we hear there has been another outbreak in Beijing, triggering a shutdown in the affected area. Do what you have to, to keep yourselves safe.

phoenix Sat 13-Jun-20 21:39:00

I'm sure we could all tell a story or two about this!

A friend, J, phoned yesterday, had plenty to say about neighbours gathering, then said that she and her DH went to visit DD, who cut her hair for her!

They then took DGS , first birthday last week, out for a walk in pushchair to give DD a break.

I mentioned that what they did was outside guidelines, but was told "Oh, we're ok, we don't go anywhere except to Asda."

give me strength!

Buntie123 Sat 13-Jun-20 23:43:01

hope you will be ok, i live in Wallasey and touch wood, myself or family or friends, dont know anyone personally with cov

Kim19 Sun 14-Jun-20 15:46:00

Gosh, this is a pain. Only yesterday my bosom buddy told me she had her hair cut in her garden. Ouch! Didn't remonstrate with her. Done deed. Love her. However, I'm now considerably concerned for her safety and will be counting the days (three weeks?) until I discover that she has experienced no adverse effects. Jeepers!

Bellanonna Sun 14-Jun-20 17:51:52

Oh I had my hair trimmed today as well. It was free. It was me. Looks pretty awful but I wouldn’t take that risk for a long time. I think people are experiencing a false sense of security thanks to someone who should have known better.

Franbern Mon 15-Jun-20 09:25:02

Kim, the chances of your friend getting infected when having her hair cut in her garden are pretty remote. sure her hairdresser had ensured combs, scissors were all well disinfected from previous use, and this virus does not carry far in open air. Do not let's get totally paranoid about this.

Due to total mishandling and such confused messages it is very easy to make many different interpretations of the current (and ever changing) rules. Today shops open with 2-metre distancing - very likely that within a week or so that distancing will be reduced. I can have a cleaner into my house but not have a friend in my house for a visit. Can now stay overnight at my daughters house and cuddle g.children, but not then visit another daughters home.

As I have continued to do my weekly Sainsbury shop myself, I am very impressed as to how well organised that is and have never felt in any danger whatever and do enjoy my weekly short drive and change of scenery.

I accept that the chances of a vaccine ever being found for this particular virus is not very high, although I also realise that treatment of those who catch it is improving almost on a daily process - I accept we are just going to have to live with it for a few years before it burns itself out.

I have no intention of passing whatever time I have left in isolation, so, yes, I do put my own interpretation on the rules using my own common sense as to how I should behave. So, I would probably be one of those the original OP was so angry with. Do not understand that - nobody is forcing anyone outside their homes if that is the only place they feel safe - they can stay inside forever if that is how they feel, but I will not.

Sparklefizz Mon 15-Jun-20 09:34:24

Franbern ^ Do not understand that - nobody is forcing anyone outside their homes if that is the only place they feel safe - they can stay inside forever if that is how they feel, but I will not.^

But, with all due respect, it's not just about you, is it Franbern? What about the people you could unknowingly infect? What about those of us who are shielding and don't want to be forced to do that for ever and a day because of people doing their own thing? I'd like to feel safe outside just like anyone else.

Daisymae Mon 15-Jun-20 11:13:30

Mercedes - the person who has been shopping while waiting for a test result has been reckless to say the least. In fact this action could be responsible for someone else's death. Incredible how irresponsible some people can be. Just because she has a potential mild case doesn't mean that subsequent infected person will have the same outcome.

Franbern Tue 16-Jun-20 13:46:12

Sparklefizz, if I had a single symptom I would immediately isolate myself. As I actually only come into contact with very few people (even at supermarket we are well apart from each other), it is not likely I will get it.

Point is, that I have not at any time through this, just stayed
indoors all of the time - my own mental health would have been at far greater risk than my physical one has been by my going out. So, I have continued weekly supermarket shopping, gone to park and met with daughter there - at least two metres apart and in open air. Started going into her garden couple of weeks ago, again, via side entrance and still apart from any of her family.

Did go to see daughter in London at weekend, I have grave concerns about her (nothing to do with the virus), we did not cuddle, but I was able to see her which helped me (and I hoped her).

Still go out most days on my mobility scooter, I wear a mask if going anywhere indoors, otherwise do not. Wash my hands carefully each time I return indoors, I am no danger to anyone - or even myself - but at least I am not keeping myself as an isolated prisoner in my home - if others feel safe that way, that is their choice, this is mine.,

MissAdventure Tue 16-Jun-20 14:23:56

80 percent of people have no symptoms to speak of, when they have the virus.