Thousands on the beach yesterday - Wednesday

Just because people are furloughed at the moment does not mean they are not desperate to get back to work.

Draconian measures could work but only if a country isolates from others, possibly for a very long time.
I am not sure what draconian could mean in this instance?
Those measures such as in China where people dared not go out but where there is now another outbreak?

In the long term, it is just not possible.

Yes, it is.

But Johnson's popularity rating would drop even further.

cf my latest post on the "second waves" thread.

growstuff

Yes, it is.

Only if other countries do the same

Looking at the statistics, just say most of the beach goers were furloughers, that means about 10% of the furloughed population did not heed the advice given. Do you think the government and scientists actually factor in a margin for all those who are not going to follow the instructions? A bit like saying 2 metres distance initially because they knew there would be 10% or so who wouldn't do that?

I used to live at the seaside and virus or no virus, the beaches would get very crowded at weekends especially during heatwaves. I can't see the attraction of such crowded places - you have to queue for everything - a parking place, cup of tea, ice cream, snacks and the loo. Not what I'd call enjoyable.

We soon learned that the best place to enjoy good weather was our own back garden.

Who on earth wants to go and sit on a crowded beach surrounded by the other types who are happy to go and sit on a crowded beach?

Having to search out and queue for toilets. Smelly ones at that. Having to bring everything with you from water to sandwiches, towels and sunshades, sun cream and all the rest.

Sand in your sandwiches, couples snogging, kids kicking balls.

Give me my back garden any day, easy access to the loo, the fridge and friends of my choosing.

Callistemon

growstuff

Yes, it is.

Only if other countries do the same

Most other countries seem to have been doing a better job than the UK. Lockdown in several of them was much stricter.

Who on earth wants to go and sit on a crowded beach
Furret Depends on which beach!
Just around the corner from B'mouth beaches, is Knoll beach at Studland Bay near the entrance to Poole harbour, which was, and possibly still is, rated the best Nude Beach in Britain.
Can't speak for it personally of course, but nowadays there's a high risk from double exposure to Corvid and melanoma-inducing UV radiation.
Interested!?
Good Health

I went there once, Rufus, when I was about 18.
My friend and I went with our then boyfriends! It was a lovely sunny summers day.

We didn't realise it was a nudist beach and beat a hasty retreat, we must have been very prudish teenagers

I have said repeatedly on different threads that I think lockdown was too late, not strict enough, and that the continuation of flights arriving from every corner of the world all through lockdown without quarantine being imposed, was absolutely crazy! And extremely annoying! The genie wasn’t just out of the bottle, it was invited out! And families are paying for that through the loss of loved ones.
But I still think that the crazy scenes we’ve watched unfold over the last few weeks, where hordes of people have congregated together in a variety of situations, really means that it’s time to get many people back to work, as with precautions in place, they will probably be safer at work than on a beach or in the middle of a street party. There will be those who can’t return, in particular those who are shielding, but they’re not a risk to themselves or anyone else as they’re staying at home, and rarely, if ever, venturing out.

But those people for whom it would not be safe at work are not the same ones on the beaches.

Once people are expected to return to work, many will be made redundant anyway because business are going bankrupt.

Others with health problems will be the ones who are made redundant with employers claiming that they are no longer fit for work. Some employers will use it as an excuse to downsize.

We didn't realise it was a nudist beach and beat a hasty retreat, we must have been very prudish teenagers blush
Callistemon No way! The only image I can conjure up is of a demure teenager, albeit one who might turn into a Sheila in later life, unafraid to use Aussie expressions!
Btw. Did those boyfriends flee with you or did you have to drag them away?
Good Health

Furret

Who on earth wants to go and sit on a crowded beach surrounded by the other types who are happy to go and sit on a crowded beach?

Having to search out and queue for toilets. Smelly ones at that. Having to bring everything with you from water to sandwiches, towels and sunshades, sun cream and all the rest.

Sand in your sandwiches, couples snogging, kids kicking balls.

Give me my back garden any day, easy access to the loo, the fridge and friends of my choosing.

Crowded beach or crowded demo? We all know that “social distancing” is a million miles away from such places and if “social distancing” matters , can we be surprised by the consequences?
From today’s DT
A PUBLIC health chief has asked for an investigation after fears that Black Lives Matter protests led to a rise in coronavirus cases in his city.
Officials at Birmingham City Council have called for a national inquiry into a rise in cases seen 10 days after thousands gathered in the city on June 4
The Government had urged people to stay away from large protests due to concern that mass gatherings could fuel the spread of Covid-19
A Public Health England (PHE) spokesman confirmed officials were looking at whether BLM protests had led to a rise in cases but insisted there was “no evidence” of a link in Birmingham (Really? What planet are PHE on? )
However, Dr Justin Varney, director of public health for Birmingham City Council, said the city had seen a “small spike” of around 25 daily cases about a week and half after the protest, adding he believed there could be a link.
Our protest was on June 4 and we started to get a rise on June 14, 15 and 16, and many of those cases don’t have an identified locus,” Dr Varney said
So, they don’t have a workplace, they’re not at school, they’re not at a hospital, they’re not in a care home. So they are classified as unknown.
To me, that suggests a link with the protests. If you look at the age profile, they weren’t 70-year-olds. They were 20 or 30-year-olds

Am I being naïve to think it is a case of stating the **ing obvious?

At least BLM had a cause. I’m not disputing your post but really, what on earth excuses do the predominantly white sun-seekers on Bournemouth beach have for their actions?