I'm ashamed to be part of the human race

Orangerose

Yes I do etheltbags1. I’m astounded at the amount of people taking risks and then, putting other people who are behaving responsibly at risk. Bloody selfish morons!

Yes, exactly....and that covers all ethnicities, those who are continuing to do what they have always done, regardless of the consequences.

I don’t think anyone said it didn’t apply to all ethnicities did they?

It’s the elephant in the room Maybee ?

Our DD forwarded a photo of one of someone who was at school with her. A dozen of them with wine glasses in hand and arms around each other
With a couple of babies too and a big birthday banner in a garden in our newly restricted area.All grinning their heads off as if the virus no longer exists and they will do what the hell they want.It makes me furious.
If everyone would accept a quiet drink or meal with those from your household is ok but not group socialising maybe we could get back to normality sooner rather than later. Selfish idiots.

We are stuck in Spain (not a bad place to be haha!) because just yet I’m not brave enough for taxi/train, the airport, a flight. We’ve stopped going to the beach - it’s very busy now and will be more so for August. Not only flights of holidaymakers but locals (construction workers, hotel workers - most hotels are not opening, contrary to popular belief).

We walk everywhere, wearing our masks but it’s getting so hot now (41°C again today) we are not venturing out now. Just locally and obviously the SuperSol as and when.

Spain (like other places) has loads more C-19 cases. I want to keep away from crowds of people.

I d be mortified if they closed the beaches they are the best place you could be out in the fresh air our beach is beautiful and never is overview crowded there are many small groups of people but nobody s on top of each other Even the ice cream stalls have standing positions on the prom and people seem to abide by them
There was no spike after all the pictures and comments of Bournemouth beach all those weeks ago

They should have never opened the pubs though because people don’t know how to behave with a drink in them and they are always crowded

This article has a lot of sense.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8583933/Muslim-Forum-chairman-Leicester-MANZOOR-MOGHAL-Ive-lost-count-times-Ive-spoken-Covid.html

I don’t understand people and never have.
I have my own remedies. I go out early in the morning, avoid our beaches during tourist season and wear my mask.
It all I can do and anticipate our “nuclear winter” when all is over 50s will be banged up again.

I’m a big believer in the Melbourne curfew.

Etheltbags. With you all the way! Up here in Scotland there is almost 100% compliance with masks from the shoppers but not from the staff. That I don’t understand.

We have been out but not to restaurants or bars. We go to our boat where we can enjoy peace and the outdoors without close contact with anybody. Every “beer garden” we pass seems to be crammed with under 40s paying no attention to social distancing.

It seems younger people just do not believe this virus is applicable to them and they have no concept of collective responsibility.

What a lot of venom! We’re being cautious and abiding by all the rules and guidelines, even though we’re now in the stricter local lockdown brought in last Friday.

But I’m not going to join in the name-calling and abuse and tarring with the same brush of the mostly young people who might be tempted to leave their small inner city flats and head to the seaside or “our” local beauty spots on a weekend, or maybe go out for a meal or a drink with their friends. Many of them are out there working anyway during the week and have no choice but to travel on public transport on a daily basis, so that a great many of us have the luxury of choosing to stay at home in our pleasant gardens. We’re the lucky ones.

As for those dens of iniquity, our pubs, DH and I have just walked up to our local for Sunday lunch. There were 6 or 7 tables in use, inside and outside, well separated from each other and occupied by discrete family groups, chatting and enjoying the sunshine. Staff all masked, reservations only, a one way system in operation, toilets monitored and restricted, hand gel stations and contact forms in use.

Of course they should be open, if they follow all the procedures laid down. They’ll go under otherwise, along with their staff.

I hope all those, who are scared of doing anything because of this flu, never go out in a car as you are far more likely to die in a car crash!

It is such a multi faceted problem, I don't agree with the statement "I'm ashamed to be part of the human race" taking that rationale to it's logical conclusion we would be ashamed of everything bad mankind has ever done from Hitler through to Mao on one extreme, right through to some people's foolishness in flouting the social distancing guidelines at the other end of the spectrum of reprehensible behaviour. We can only be responsible for ourselves, and in an ideal world there would be a collective approach as to the dangers we are facing. All over the world, it seem there is a section of the human race that are determined to do what they want without considering how their cavalier behaviour will affect the rest of society.

On a personal level, we've cancelled everything two holidays abroad and a few small breaks in Britain, we are living quietly, only going to food shops and pharmacies, where we wear our masks, local walks, avoiding others, even walking into the road when those coming towards us (mostly young) don't drop into single file, getting most things delivered and sticking to a 30 or so mile radius when we do stray from home. My husband does play golf twice a week where strict social distancing applies, we've had lunch outside once on a terrace with a good deal of space between tables. Have met up with a some family, mainly in the garden, occasionally in the house, who we know haven't been mixing with all and sundry. What more can you do as an individual. Although I think it's a lot easier to be like this when you are part of an older demographic and naturally tend towards caution and perhaps as we age are blessed with a greater dose of stoicism.

I look at the heaving beaches on the south coast with a certain trepidation, I also think about how it must be to be a local and have half the country emptied into your locality, although as far as Bournemouth and Brighton are concerned, they always look like that whenever we are blessed with hot weather. It doesn't help that the lines are continually blurred and we are constantly getting mixed messages, although of course the nature of how the virus is manifesting is constantly changing.

We can't just look to those who have upped sticks determined to flood the south west though, and if you were cooped up with your kids in a flat, maybe pitching up somewhere near the coast is a last resort to save your sanity. I wouldn't do it, but then I'm not a parent of youngsters.

There are many demographics that feed the potential dangers. As well as the desperate holiday makers, or maybe not so desperate, I have seen this week-end pictures of people spilling out of pubs and gardens all over the place, a black quasi para military group out pounding the pavements of Brixton, those celebrating Eid, on going battles the police are having with illegal ravers. Then of course there are the sweatshops of Leicester, can we blame those women who no doubt need the money they earn to put food on the table, I wouldn't, but I would blame the factory owners though who break the law not only by not paying them the legal minimum wage but by also by not ensuring their working environment is safe.

I think it is being considered one of the measure that may potentially be enforced, is to expect those over 50, which is most of us on this site I imagine, to just not go out at all. In other words all of us who have been doing our best to be careful will have to pay a heavy price for those who haven't.

farview I agree wholeheartedly. We have abided by the rules, worn masks, socially distanced ourselves and have missed family dreadfully. I just wonder if I will ever be able to cuddle my grandchildren again. The situation has been spoiled by foolish people for the rest of us.

A covidiot near us was displaying symptoms of the virus and was awaiting test results, he thought he would have a night out and consequently three bars near us are now closed. Goodness only knows how many people he has infected, I feel sorry for the taxi drivers that transport these idiots from bar to bar.
They are young and really don't care who they give it to.

Maggiemaybe - good post. I couldn't agree more

lemongrove

It’s the elephant in the room Maybee ?

How and why is it?

GS and I go to the beach a lot.

Meryl That looks lovely.

Well in our area despite new restrictions the pubs near us have been far too with little social distancing apparently. If pubs want to remain open they should restrict numbers or lose their licence
And putting live sport on big screens banned for the time being
There's a big difference between a quiet drink at a table to groups watching football and losing any sense of distancing the more they drink.

Meant too busy.

Dinahmo
Thank you. I've been all over the world but it's still one of my favourite places. And only 20 mins from home ?

Sparklefizz

Last night there was a lot of loud music with what sounded like a DJ and a professional sound system. I looked out of my back bedroom window and could see into someone's garden about 70 yards away that they had a party going on. They had set up a gazebo, flashing lights, etc and it was all happening. No social distancing. Plenty of people there - 20 or more of them. The noise was tremendous, even when I closed all my windows. My house was vibrating with the thud! thud! thud! of the beat.

I was absolutely furious and considered phoning 101 but feel the police have so much to have to deal with at the moment with raves involving hundreds of people, so I didn't.

This morning I had a message from a neighbour to say that the host of the party is a nurse who wanted to celebrate her 49th birthday and invited all her nursing colleagues because she felt they needed to let their hair down !!!!

If even the nurses are doing "a Dominic Cummings", then we are never going to get rid of this virus. I am in my 22nd week of solitary confinement and worried about how it will be in the winter and how I will feel. I am still absolutely furious with people who behave like this, idiots who crowd the beaches and the pubs ..... selfish beyond belief! I am ashamed of them.

Yes, the same in my village on Saturday night, at least 16 people in the garden and then crammed into the house until late, eating drinking and making merry!

A friend is an estate agent in a nearby town.In the short time they have been open again they have sold eleven houses eight to people who have not viewed them, who live in cities and are buying "bolt holes" what is all that about? Most sales are traditional cornish cottages which will no doubt become second homes.

Rufus2

^I'm so annoyed at the thought the virus is coming back and all those deaths were in vain^
Etheltbags It's already back here; came back days ago!
As a result Victoria is now called the "State of Disaster" with an absolute curfew from 8.00pm till 5.00am for everyone except essential workers. All schools resume "studying at home", again with a few minor exceptions. Only for 6 weeks!
Panic buying has resumed; only one person per household allowed to shop; etc etc.!

Start whistling; "Pack up your troubles in your old kit-bag..."
Good Health OoRoo

At least they take swift and serious action there. Can you imagine if a curfew were to be introduced here !! Our police would not be given the powers to step in.

(anne widdecombe would go ballistic.)