Advice please - an I being a wimp

Thanks very much for the comments and advice, they're much appreciated.
We checked out this morning.
I spoke to the manager and said I wasn't happy about the cleanliness. He assured me that all precautions against the virus had been taken and everything had been cleaned/sanitised (well he would say that wouldn't he)
We were charged only for the 1 night which we were very happy with, but I doubt we'll be going back.

There's a heck of a lot of trust involved in all of this isn't there?

You are right. They seem complacent. How can you enjoy your stay if you are worrying. Point this out to them, request a refund or don't pay if you haven't and leave.

No you are no wimp.

I went on my first proper supermarket shop since 20/3 yesterday and Sainsbury's had done everything properly.

You need to be somewhere where they do things properly.

Shame that we now equate being very careful with being a wimp.

Let's all be very careful and all be here this time next year x

There is a lot of "performing cleanliness" too though.

I had to ho to a supermarket recently and it had arrows and sanitiser - but no one was policing it do it wasn't really any use.

Whereabouts are you? Scotland is quite a large place. Have to admit, despite my affinity to Scotland, if I wasn't happy where I'm staying I'd find somewhere else.

The current regulations in Scotland are that hotels must maintain a minimum distance between people (other than family groups) of at least 2 metres and musn’t admit so many people that this distance can not be maintained. So facemasks are not required. Friends who stayed in the Lake District phoned up beforehand to find what the hotel’s practices were. In this case they seemed very good. So that is something people could do. But I wouldn’t stay in any hotel myself at the moment. As people say it is a matter of trust. And I don’t trust. I am amazed how many people in my Quaker meeting have had their hair cut. But you have to make your own decisions and there will be various sorts of compromise. Though levels of infection are low in Scotland at the moment they won’t stay that way with people travelling here on holiday from more heavily infected areas such as parts of England. Especially if this hotel is something to go by. On the other hand people depend on tourism to earn money to live. What a mess we are in.

Well you've gone now Valels so all ok. Like the previous poster I too wondered where in Scotland you were. If you were in a busy City with lots of guests coming and going I would be much more concerned.

If it was somewhere more remote with no high incidences and all hygiene issues were taken care of in an unobtrusive and relaxing way I would feel better about it.

Enjoy your trip home.

Valels, if you are going from hotel to hotel on this holiday surely that is increasing the risk. Not just to you, but to other people you may then infect in turn.

Yes, I agree Molly10. It is very important that hotels and other facilities are vigilant. Not just to protect visitors. But to protect local people. Because in the remote areas you mention, it is the visitors who present the danger.

Iwould not have stayed one night even, staff,possibly without gloves, will have made up the beds too, id feel 'unclean' sleeping in them! Yes id leave, tell him you want refunding (or only pay for one night if youve not yet settled bill) and definitely ask him what his policies were- just so youre clear if you did wish to report this establishment? Can you not stay extra days back at the one you went the first night? Just so you can still enjoy your break? Maybe if you rang to ask if theres availability there & explain other situation?better than scuttling off home & declaring first trip out a disaster? You never know,they may have had a cancellation.

There used to be a story circulating in London about a rat falling into pan of soup in one of the top restaurants, and the soup was still served to goodness knows how many customers! There was also a tale of a food inspector finding a cat asleep on a pan of chips!

The point I wanted to make is that we should all be extra wary of eating out in present conditions. As others have said, what you see on the surface is no guarantee of what is going on out of sight. I feel that most restaurants are probably being strict about enforcing the rules, but will this attention to hygiene slip in a few weeks time?

Glad you voted with your feet and were only charged for one night. I would imagine any bad reviews on this hotel in Trip Advisor would finish them off.

I went back to swimming this week and was impressed at the efforts the club made. However people swimming were not followed the rules re direction which meant that people were swimming towards me where we were less than 2m apart. The idea is that the pool is Split into two and people swim clockwise in one lane and anti-clockwise in the other. It just took one idiot not to follow these rules and as a result I didn’t feel safe so am likely to be cancelling my membership.

Such a shame.

Talk to management first. Just because you can't see things like signs does not mean things are not done. They might be able to reassure you.

Mandatory face coverings
Retail
A face covering must be worn by all people in a shop, except where an exemption or ‘reasonable excuse,’ as defined in thelegislation, applies when the shop is open to the public.
A shop is any indoor establishment which offers goods or services for sale or hire. This includes anywhere that offer some goods for hire, for example if a library offers DVDs or CDs for hire.
This does not include hospitality premises such as cafes, coffee shops, restaurants or pubs. It also excludes money services businesses such as banks and building societies.

www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-phase-3-staying-safe-and-protecting-others/pages/face-coverings/ I must say, I was surprised when I checked....

I am in Scotland and feel the risk is definately lower here. However regardless of any assurances from the manager I would have checked out too. It's your health that's at risk.

I'm a wimp too then as I would be gone. I've been out this morning (first time to a public place) to drop my car off for MOT. There were no masks to be seen although they did sanitise my car key. Then I went to a printers to pick up my partners sign. No mask worn in there and when I questioned the man he said it was not needed as it was an office! Does the virus choose where to go then?

I felt uncomfortable enough in these two places so how you must feel in that Hotel is beyond me. Do not feel bad for leaving and trust your instincts.

I certainly wouldn’t stay. Why do they think they are exempt from social distancing and PPE? I would be inclined to make a report to the Tourist Board.

I think for future hotels you go to, you can ask to see their Covid safe certificate. If they don’t have one, that settles it...and if they do, you should be able to read what is involved.

Report them! If they are complying no problem if not they'll be closed down until they do!
Why question it leave it to those who can and will find out. If in doubt 'flag it up' why wait and wish you had?

I think with this pandemic it really comes down to looking out for yourself as you cannot trust others to do it for you. I certainly would not trust any venue whatever signs they placed around the place. Based on the situation as it exists at the moment the only indoor place I am prepared to visit is a supermarket to buy food and that's necessity rather than choice.

I’m just wondering did you discuss this with other guests( socially distancing of course ) while you were there and if so what was their take on it?
I wouldn’t have felt safe there and would also have left.

Chill out and enjoy . Something is going to kill you x??

Since the beginning of March 2020, aged 82, I have been isolating due to multiple health and mobility issues. During this period, there has been no direct communication from any government/health source to say I needed to shield or to ask whether I required help. My friend (87) at close-down had just completed breast-cancer treatment (chemo-therapy, mastectomy followed by radio-therapy) the same - nothing.
My daughter, aged 50, and her friend, patients of the same surgery as myself, received clear instruction to shield. Was this hit and miss approach an isolated instance of incompetence or deliberate indifference to the life and safety of the elderly. After viewing the Panorama Programme last week, I am being to suspect the latter – and that elderly lives DO NOT matter and have not mattered throughout this pandemic. Now when the next election arrives many of us will have long memories to guide us.

sparklingsilver28 I heard nothing from government or GP for 3 months despite having multiple risk factors. 3 weeks into lockdown we had no hope of getting a supermarket delivery until a family member got on the phone to Tesco a month in and got me put on their vulnerable list. In June I received a government letter telling me to shield for 12 weeks because of my asthma, actually the least of my worries: “ Do not go out, get a neighbour to put your bins out (!), get volunteers to shop for you.” Fast forward 2 weeks and I received a text telling that I must go out once a day to exercise. So far so good though I prefer to do my exercising in my garden, living as I do in a city where few people appear to be taking Covid seriously. Two weeks after that text I received two identical letters to say that my case had been reviewed and I am no longer required to shield.
Now I am to understand that no one needs to shield and family who have been shielding with me must return to work if required and in September to school, in the case of the latter with fines for non-compliance.
So I will continue taking the shillyshallying of the powers that be with a pinch of salt and rely on my own common sense to keep me safe. Road trips from hotel to hotel definitely not on my list of risks I am prepared to take.