Why we are still in deep trouble

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Christingle is certainly right when she says this has never been about saving lives - it's what lies behind it that is more terrifying....and no, I am not a conspiracist like the growing thousands who are now seeing a clearer picture! (Read about them in my last reference at the end)

Some great news is that the 'Crowd Justice's' challenge against the UK Government lockdown will continue to be heard after the Court of Appeal yesterday ruled that the case highlighted ‘fundamental’ concerns over the accountability of Government Ministers.

The Judicial Review will now proceed to a rolled-up hearing expected to be held at the Court of Appeal during the week commencing the 28th September after a ruling was handed down by Lord Justice Hickinbottom.

The hearing will decide on whether the case should progress to a full Appeal which would see the Government once again pressed to defend the introduction of measures which were described by the court as “possibly the most restrictive regime on the public life of persons and businesses ever.”

Lord Justice Hickinbottom said that the legal challenge "potentially raises fundamental issues concerning the proper spheres for democratically-accountable Ministers of the Government and judges."

Owing to Government restrictions, the first hearing was held virtually. However, Lord Justice Hickinbottom ordered in his review that the case should be “considered by the full court in open court, and the Applicants given any opportunity to make good their case at least on arguability.”

Today, I was sent a link to .....

Watch "Bill Gates & Fauci Wicked Agenda Exposed!! People Need to Take This Everywhere." on YouTube
Millions apparently watched it...but guess what - before I had a chance to watch it, it was removed. Speaks volumes!

People are turning away from watching TV especially the BBC and not relying on newspapers either. Better to watch Anna Brees on You Tube and her great effort to ensure that ordinary people are able to have a voice and send in their videos and tell the truth of their experiences and thoughts. She once worked for the BBC so she has a lot of insight.

As for Covid, it is not just going to just disappear like someone else said.
Hydroxychloroquine if given in early stages has now proven to have worked (doctors have said so). This has been used safely for over the last 60 plus years. Ask your GP?

Do you have a friend called Donald?

Please don't waste your GP's valuable time asking about hydroxychloroquine. There is no benefit against Covid-19. www.recoverytrial.net/news/statement-from-the-chief-investigators-of-the-randomised-evaluation-of-covid-19-therapy-recovery-trial-on-hydroxychloroquine-5-june-2020-no-clinical-benefit-from-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-in-hospitalised-patients-with-covid-19

Don’t be daft growstuff people don’t want to hear from the experts anymore. YouTube is where it’s at

Please do not try to mislead people, growstuff.
Your reference - wait for it - is funded by Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation.
Look at July data www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
Bill Gates is determined to ensure everyone gets his vaccine even though it has a DNA altering technology within it - no thanks!
Listen to what this health coach lady from Brighton has to say
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDelmwS36IA

To answer your other question, yes, I do have a friend called Donald TRUMP and NOT afraid to say so. Everyone has a right to speak and not be afraid of what others may think. You, rightfully have your beliefs and I have mine. Amen

Oh, thank you so much for your comment Greeneyedgirl - how right you are, Bless you.

Here in France, people who don’t follow the rules the government made to protect us, get fined. That’s the only way to make people behave for their own good. Britain is a laughing stock over here. We now have to wear masks in the street. It’s hardly surprising that we have half the number of deaths per million people than the U.K.
Get a grip Boris and your lot!!

DNA altering technology NannyC2 .....would that be some sort of alien DNA by any chance? ??
Of course you have a right to an opinion as does DT, but don’t expect anyone with sense and intelligence to agree with you.

The difference is you have gendarmes at the ready round every corner in France, reddevil!

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I can understand how folks get frustrated and angry about how the virus etc is being handled but , just for a minute, think about the scale of the task involved , trying to save lives, orgainise lockdowns, cope with NHS workload, furlows, and on and on,,, I think that whoever is in charge has a very difficult job on their hands I dont envy them one little bit

Jillybird there is a study on antibodies, which I think is ongoing at Kings College. They checked 90 staff and patients from Guys & St Thomas’ who had had COVID-19.

They did find antibodies peak at 3 weeks and waned thereafter, similar to other coronoviruses. However they are not yet sure whether the antibody level plateaus or will maintain a level of immunity to further infection.

It’s worth checking it out for further info. It’s still too early for definitive results I think.

16:38Reddevil3

Here in France, people who don’t follow the rules the government made to protect us, get fined. That’s the only way to make people behave for their own good. Britain is a laughing stock over here. We now have to wear masks in the street. It’s hardly surprising that we have half the number of deaths per million people than the U.K.
Get a grip Boris and your lot!!


Well I wouldn't laugh too soon

New coronavirus cases rise 54% in mainland France in a week
Health authorities say increase is particularly concerning among people aged 20-30

Coronavirus – latest updates
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Kim Willsher in Paris and Kate Connolly in Berlin
Fri 31 Jul 2020 08.46

Firecracker
Well said, I’ve seen that too. France are not doing particularly well. Cases are rising in Germany, Greece, and France.

Agree wholeheartedly with you Lemongrove.
Also heartened by the numbers agreeing with the good sense of Lemon’s posts.

Yes, France is struggling with new cases Firecracker. My French friends over there certainly aren't laughing at Britain, they have more pressing worries in their homeland. The area we visit in Southern Brittany has a curfew from 9 pm til dawn on its beaches.
This brings me back to supposing it is younger people spreading the virus. We never saw any older people on the beaches at night time!

Reddevil3

Here in France, people who don’t follow the rules the government made to protect us, get fined. That’s the only way to make people behave for their own good. Britain is a laughing stock over here. We now have to wear masks in the street. It’s hardly surprising that we have half the number of deaths per million people than the U.K.
Get a grip Boris and your lot!!

Really?

I posted a while ago now about several young French people overseas who were desperately worried about their parents and grandparents back home in France because people all around them were breaking the rules.

I, too, agree with Lemongrove and JenniferE and would also like to mention that the world is dealing with something it has never seen before and which appears to behave in a fairly unique way. Give the experts a break

72 cas confirmés, la majorité des jeunes de 18 à 25 ans
I don't think the figures need any translation. In a small Breton coastal town.

NannyC2

Please do not try to mislead people, growstuff.
Your reference - wait for it - is funded by Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation.
Look at July data www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
Bill Gates is determined to ensure everyone gets his vaccine even though it has a DNA altering technology within it - no thanks!
Listen to what this health coach lady from Brighton has to say
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDelmwS36IA

To answer your other question, yes, I do have a friend called Donald TRUMP and NOT afraid to say so. Everyone has a right to speak and not be afraid of what others may think. You, rightfully have your beliefs and I have mine. Amen

Conspiracy theories such as these are banned on other social media sites but apparently ok on GN?

Have we checked with them Furret?

Furret If it weren't for the fact that a handful of absolute idiots believe this stuff, I'd find it laughable. It really should be banned.

lemongrove

DNA altering technology NannyC2 .....would that be some sort of alien DNA by any chance? ??
Of course you have a right to an opinion as does DT, but don’t expect anyone with sense and intelligence to agree with you.

On this, I agree with you.

Sounds like you are getting a little nervy, growstuff?
As a writer and a former 'senior manager' in the NHS, I try to be courteous to people and not address others as 'idiots.'

You are not for free speech then?
You don't wish to listen to other people's side of things for which I gave reference to?

Perhaps you would like to get in touch with Anna Brees and tell her your thoughts?