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Why we are still in deep trouble

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JenniferEccles Tue 04-Aug-20 09:01:19

Isn’t it wonderful how those who don’t have the unenviable responsibility for seeing us through this, seem to have all the answers?

The thing to remember is that virologists are just concerned with the virus, not the effects on the economy.

It’s an incredibly difficult balancing act for the government, saving lives yet at the same time trying to preserve as many jobs as possible.

Lucca Tue 04-Aug-20 08:47:33

lemongrove

Well, we could do several things....forget all safety precautions, everybody goes about their lives as normal and a lot of people are ill and a lot of people die ( such as we haven’t seen before) until those that are left have had the virus and recovered, herd immunity etc.Or, we can all stay in hiding until there is a vaccine.By that time however, the economy will have crashed and jobs lost etc.Or, we can do what we are doing already, phased openings of shops and leisure venues and trying to get people to work and children to school, whilst being prepared to close down things in local hot spots for the virus.

You’re not Mrs Gove are you ?! Kidding. In principle I agree with you (not her) but what I feel is that there are so many discrepancies in the rules/advice, and those are not enforced at all.

Luckygirl Tue 04-Aug-20 08:42:58

lemongrove - cannot disagree with the general drift of your post. BUT - these actions should be using the best scientists' advice; using the best people, not business cronies; and it should all have happened about 2 months ago.

There have been too many instances of scientists who have thrown up their hands in horror at the government's tardy and half-hearted approach - viz. Boris - "I have been shaking hands with everyone" - what a pillock.

Lexisgranny Tue 04-Aug-20 08:37:55

Spot on lemongrove.

gillybob Tue 04-Aug-20 08:35:20

Oh and yes I agree with lemongrove .

gillybob Tue 04-Aug-20 08:33:57

Exactly EllanVannin

My DH has had 4 CV tests now . All negative . I don’t see the point. The tests are only as good as the minute they were taken . They don’t have a shelf life .

And while the NHS is focusing everything at the CV, In the mean time people are becoming very ill and dying of neglect .

travelsafar Tue 04-Aug-20 08:33:29

I agree lemongrove.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 04-Aug-20 08:32:06

ditto lemongrove. ????

lemongrove Tue 04-Aug-20 08:18:50

Well, we could do several things....forget all safety precautions, everybody goes about their lives as normal and a lot of people are ill and a lot of people die ( such as we haven’t seen before) until those that are left have had the virus and recovered, herd immunity etc.Or, we can all stay in hiding until there is a vaccine.By that time however, the economy will have crashed and jobs lost etc.Or, we can do what we are doing already, phased openings of shops and leisure venues and trying to get people to work and children to school, whilst being prepared to close down things in local hot spots for the virus.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Aug-20 08:18:01

This testing is as good as useless the way this virus performs.

Luckygirl Tue 04-Aug-20 08:11:59

Sigh. sad

Daisymae Tue 04-Aug-20 08:08:43

Seems that the government is making decisions based on ideological grounds rather than use the expertise that we have to hand in England. On the basis that we may be in the eye of the storm somehow the government needs to get a grip. Their record to date is appalling but they seem content to plough on. These virologists wrote to the government weeks ago but haven't had a response.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/uk-virologists-criticise-handling-coronavirus-testing-contracts