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Does this make sense to anyone?

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Grannynannywanny Sat 22-Aug-20 09:11:21

New restrictions introduced in Oldham due rising covid numbers. People must not socialise with others out with their own household. But pubs and restaurants remain open.

So it’s ok to socialise in pubs and restaurants?

Bathsheba Sat 22-Aug-20 09:17:10

We've just been remarking on this Gnw. Makes no sense whatever does it?

BlueSky Sat 22-Aug-20 09:18:04

Grannynanny apparently the reason behind that is that in public, i.e. Restaurants and pubs, you have to follow guidelines but in your own home you could do more or less as you please!

EllanVannin Sat 22-Aug-20 09:19:27

It doesn't make sense at all because it's crowds who are spreading it.shock Young people are carrying the virus to the older/ vulnerable ones.

GrandmaMoira Sat 22-Aug-20 09:24:21

Whilst we may not agree with it, the reasoning is that the economy needs to keep going so keep pubs and restaurants open to make money and pay salaries.

Grandmafrench Sat 22-Aug-20 09:24:56

It’s more about the money and less about the sense ?

Jaxjacky Sat 22-Aug-20 09:28:10

As Bluesky says, pubs/restaurants have social distancing/anti bac/one way enforced. At home it can be less enforced and the majority of cases originate there.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Aug-20 09:29:44

People let their guard down in their own homes, plenty of examples of this posted on GN frequently.

A lot of businesses are hanging on by the thinnest thread, keeping things open may well preserve them and keep people employed and help our High Streets.

Illte Sat 22-Aug-20 09:41:07

Actually most new cases have been through close contact with friends and family.

People just don't keep their distance at home.

Kate1949 Sat 22-Aug-20 09:53:53

In our local pub. they take your details on entry, you use hand sanitiser. Tables are well spaced out, there is a one way system. You are not allowed to go to chat to people at another table or stand at the bar. We order via an app. The food and drinks are put on the edge of your table. We wipe the glasses etc. You are only allowed to stay a limited amount of time. If there are no free tables, you can't go in.
Doesn't sound like much fun but we love our local, can walk to it and it's s change of scene.
Like people say above, I don't think my family would stick to rigid rules in houses.

Grannynannywanny Sat 22-Aug-20 09:56:20

I feel for owners of pubs and restaurants especially small establishments who find it even more difficult to distance customers indoors. They are in a terrible predicament. Pub customers are most likely to let their guard down.

I drove along a small street yesterday evening which has a Chinese takeaway, fish and chip shop and a pub. The 2 takeaway shops had a socially distanced outdoor queue of mask wearing customers and a 1 in 1 out system.

The pub across the road from them had a huddle of 8 or 9 customers standing literally shoulder to shoulder exhaling and inhaling each other’s cigarette plumes of smoke.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Aug-20 09:56:30

Kate1949 totally agree, pubs, cafes and restaurants in our area are stringent on taking details, hand sanitising and social distancing.

Iam64 Sat 22-Aug-20 10:10:32

Im in the Gtr Manchester area. I had my first meal out last Sunday in one of the pubs that sells excellent food. Social Distancing, staff all good, people careful. That just isn't the case in the supermarkets or any shops. I avoid shops unless I absolutely have to go in.

It's the same on pavements, SD out the window. No wonder we have a spike. Gtr Manchester Police were called out to numerous house or street parties overnight, 100 people in one house. Rusholme's curry mile was closed because of crowds celebrating Pakistan Independence Day and a few days later, because of crowds celebrating Afghanistan Independence Day.

We need business open, schools back and for that to happen we need people to show some civic responsibility. What is ht problem with "understanding "the rules or saying they're daft so should ignored.

Kate1949 Sat 22-Aug-20 10:46:41

Yes indeed GrannyGravy The staff in our local are lovely and desperate to keep their jobs. I feel it's my duty to assist grin

Toadinthehole Sat 22-Aug-20 10:51:26

We’re holidaying in this area in a few weeks and are quite worried. Coming from a low risk area. People socialise differently in homes/ back gardens, to pubs, restaurants etc, so not safe to do it. Don’t know what we’ll do yet for sure.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Aug-20 11:05:05

Kate1949

Yes indeed GrannyGravy The staff in our local are lovely and desperate to keep their jobs. I feel it's my duty to assist grin

We have assissted so much what with takeaways during strict lockdown then frequenting our local pub and restaurants since they have reopened, my waist has expanded.......I now need to support the clothing industry and buy bigger sizes ?

Kate1949 Sat 22-Aug-20 11:47:49

GrannyGravy Me too. I think it's very kind of us!

BlueBelle Sat 22-Aug-20 12:29:39

Restaurants feel ok for me as most have put lots of things in place Pubs makes no sense at all and I don’t even see why we are worried about the pub culture economy Our library isn t open yet I’d rather see that open than a pub There are pubs and pubs some will have been very clear and careful but even if the pub puts restrictions in place get a load of drinkers together and it ll all go out the window

MayBee70 Sat 22-Aug-20 16:51:06

Given that most of my neighbours have a constant stream of visitors I checked out my local councils advice site to see what the rules are and they seem to be to avoid people 'if possible' and work from home if you can. And that face masks are mandatory in shops although I've been told that people are ignoring this and shops aren't forcing people to do so. That's it. Are we not in 'bubbles' any more? Not that I'm in a bubble and the only thing I've done in months is go to the hairdressers. I feel like one of those Japanese soldiers that kept on fighting WWII because no one had told them the war had ended.

Theoddbird Sun 23-Aug-20 09:41:43

Apparently the virus is spreading more between famies than in pubs

sarahanew Sun 23-Aug-20 09:43:27

It's all been contradictive and confusing all the way through and rules are not being enforced, just do what you feel is right to protect yourself

Bluekitchen192 Sun 23-Aug-20 09:58:27

Its a fine balance between having some normal life and protecting the health of the nation. In my area of London all the shops have designed some kind of one way system and most people wear masks. The pubs and cafes put a few tables outside and fortunately the weather has been good. Hairdressers wear masks. Schools will reopen next week The vulnerable are still having food delivered and telephone chats just for the company. People are doing the best they can. Cheer up folks,

GreenGran78 Sun 23-Aug-20 09:58:55

Sarahanew that’s what I have been doing, right from the start. What use is it, trying to decipher the mixed messages we have been getting for months? I live just outside Wigan, which has a very low rate of infection. Because we are included in Greater Manchester we have been ‘locked down’ too.
I take my walks, stick to my Bubble, and shop when it’s quiet. I feel perfectly safe.

Tempest Sun 23-Aug-20 10:15:46

Older people should stay in their bubble. Stay at home and retire. Young people should go back to living, working and enjoying this life. Go out and about and start the economy going. What is the point of ruining the lives of the young to keep the old alive? I have never understood that. In my family we have had many relatives reach the age of 104 years old. What is the point of that? It's time to look after the younger generations.

Kim19 Sun 23-Aug-20 10:16:32

My interpretation was that same households could dine/drink out together.